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  • Paul S.
    Expired
    • April 6, 2010
    • 148

    Antifreeze Change Over to G05

    I am just looking for confirmation that I did an acceptable job of flushing the coolant on my 67 327 before switching to G05--it had Prestone (the green stuff) which was between 2-3 years old, done by the prior owner.

    I removed the expansion tank cap, pulled the block drain plugs and opened the radiator petcock and let everything drain out, and with the plugs still removed and petcock opened, ran fresh water from the hose stuck in the expansion tank, until all three openings were running clear water, and let them run for a good 5-10 minutes afterward. Then reinserted block plugs, closed petcock, filled with water and ran engine until themostat opened. Drained, and did the same 2 times before finally adding 2 gallons G05 in the expansion tank, and filled the rest with distilled water.

    I initially planned on pulling the heater hoses to back flush the heater core (which like the coolant I replaced is 2 going on three years old). But mine's an AC car with parts installed I wasn't expecting (there's a 3 way T and some form of diaphram close to the inlet of the heater core, and I didn't want to fool with any of those hose connections). Also, there was not a great deal of slack in the heater hoses to make a length-wise slice of 1/2" or so, in order to remove them.

    Since the heater hoses and radiator hoses are less than 3 years old, I figured leave the hoses alone and run water through the system as described.

    The total fill was a little less than 14 quarts, so there was still roughly two quarts somewhere that did not drain out from the engine block plugs and radiator petcock. As best as my eyes could tell from the 3 drain, refill with water, run car until thermostat opened cycles, everthing was running clear water before I did the final fill with G05 topped off with 1 1/2 gallons of distilled water.

    Worst case scenario and there is somehow a residual mixture of the old Prestone/water mix left, I assume I am OK. It's hard to find anything definitive on whether G05 creates any issue if there is some residual green prestone still in the coolant system/hoses.

    And I figure for the next coolant flush I will do it in June 2013 (2 years instead of 3-5 years), and then maybe go to 3 years thereafter.

    Just wanting a sanity check, while I am still off work this week and have the time for a re-do, if I totally missed something. Am I OK?

    By the way, I was expecting the G05 to be yellow (not sure why). It was clear coming out of the gallon jugs. I thought, well that's interesting. Sure makes it tougher to see any drips.

    I did install the block drain plugs with some pipe dope, just snug (using my 3/8" ratchet with maybe a quarter turn beyond finger tight), and closed the petcock finger tight. Everything looked good--no stray drips. I was a little apprehensive about using the petcock, as I had read posts about them not closing after being opened. Mine was very clean (Dewitts radiator less than 3 years old), and all of the nasty looking flow came from the engine block drains. So I considered myself fortunate on that score--saved me a trip to the autoparts store for a new petcock.
  • Michael H.
    Very Frequent User
    • December 1, 1987
    • 726

    #2
    Re: Antifreeze Change Over to G05

    Sounds like you did it the way I did mine back in the spring. Mine is working just fine except I replaced water pump, radiator ( now a Dewitt )heater & rad hoses. I have a small leak as I'm using the tower hose clamps and I need to snug it up a little bit more or change over to a worm type clamp. I did a 600 mile trip to Joplin with no problem, temp ran 170-180.

    Mike

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    • Duke W.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • January 1, 1993
      • 15667

      #3
      Re: Antifreeze Change Over to G05

      Good job. HOAT anti-freezes like G05 have no compatibility problems with a slight amount of "green", and given your very thorough flush, there is likely only a few ppm of the green inhibitors left. OATs like Dexcool are the ones that don't get along with a significant amount of residue from old IAT blends.

      You did almost everthing right, and I think you're okay to go 4-5 years.

      The only thing I recommend other than what you did is to use "pipe dope" to seal the block drains. It's designed to seal water and steam fittings while also preventing them from seizing. It should be stocked by any decent hardware store.

      G05 has just a very slight amber tint (think about your effluent after a couple of beers), and since it contains some inorganic salts, any leaks should leave a bit of solid residue that you should be able to see.

      Duke

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      • Paul S.
        Expired
        • April 6, 2010
        • 148

        #4
        Re: Antifreeze Change Over to G05

        Duke,

        I did use pipe dope on the block drain plug threads (instructions on the tube said to apply to the male threads). I can tell they had been out previously, probably the last time the coolant was changed. I didn't need to use a breaker bar to get them loose, but did spray with Kroil and used my 1/2" ratchet. Turned "slowly" but all in all, didn't take an inordinate amount of grunt to get them out.

        Thanks for the confirmation--piece of mind is hard to come by on old cars and new fluids/technology, and with lots of opinions on the web.

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        • Paul S.
          Expired
          • April 6, 2010
          • 148

          #5
          Re: Antifreeze Change Over to G05

          Originally posted by Dave Perry (19643)
          Duke:
          I'll bite.

          I have used HOAT coolant in the late-model MTU diesels I work on that specify it, but other than that don't know too much about HOAT. I just did a quick Google search, and only came up with sales promotion, and various forum threads on the subject of HOAT coolants. I have more faith in a "Forum source" I'm familiar with, so I have a question:

          Is there an advantage to changing over to HOAT from the "green"? And in a paragraph or less, what is that advantage? Thanks.

          Dave
          I'll let Duke weigh in, but HOAT has a longer change interval than Green/IAT. As I don't like flushing coolant and like even less, letting someone do it for me on my 67, I'd rather do it once every 3-5 years vs. every two years with Green/IAT. That's why I changed over.

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          • Duke W.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • January 1, 1993
            • 15667

            #6
            Re: Antifreeze Change Over to G05

            Originally posted by Dave Perry (19643)
            Duke:
            I'll bite.

            I have used HOAT coolant in the late-model MTU diesels I work on that specify it, but other than that don't know too much about HOAT. I just did a quick Google search, and only came up with sales promotion, and various forum threads on the subject of HOAT coolants. I have more faith in a "Forum source" I'm familiar with, so I have a question:

            Is there an advantage to changing over to HOAT from the "green"? And in a paragraph or less, what is that advantage? Thanks.

            Dave
            Search the archives under my name - HOAT OAT IAT. There's a TON of information I've posted over the last ten years, and I don't have the time to retype it all in.

            Duke

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            • Duke W.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • January 1, 1993
              • 15667

              #7
              Re: Antifreeze Change Over to G05

              Anyone with a late model Ford or Chrysler product, look in your maintenance schedule and tell us what it says. New Fords and Chryslers have been using the G05 formulation for close to a decade.

              Duke

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