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  • Brad H.
    Expired
    • August 12, 2007
    • 724

    Trucks/Towing Power

    As an example the new Ford 3.7L V6 6 Speed Auto 302 @ 6500 RPM 278 @ 4000 Torque, does anyone have one and how does it pull the longer hills with a steeper grade, for a car hauler and corvette, I believe dodge has a similar package probably chevy also. Thanks, Brad.
  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    #2
    Re: Trucks/Towing Power

    Torque is the magic word when towing, and 278 ft. lb. is a little shy of what would be acceptable to me.
    Dick Whittington

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    • John F.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • March 23, 2008
      • 2395

      #3
      Re: Trucks/Towing Power

      My Tundra w/4.7L V-8 pulls my open aluminum trailer and 62 just fine>

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      • John H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • November 30, 1997
        • 16513

        #4
        Re: Trucks/Towing Power

        Originally posted by Brad Hake (47659)
        As an example the new Ford 3.7L V6 6 Speed Auto 302 @ 6500 RPM 278 @ 4000 Torque, does anyone have one and how does it pull the longer hills with a steeper grade, for a car hauler and corvette, I believe dodge has a similar package probably chevy also. Thanks, Brad.
        Brad -

        I think you'd be immensely disappointed towing ANYTHING with only 278 ft-lb. of torque.

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        • Pete B.
          Very Frequent User
          • February 21, 2007
          • 317

          #5
          Re: Trucks/Towing Power

          My (American made) 08 Tundra with the 5.7 tows my C3 and C4's almost like you did not know it was there and I got 17 mpg trailering to Waco. The 6 speed transmission is the best!

          Originally posted by John Ftacek (48800)
          My Tundra w/4.7L V-8 pulls my open aluminum trailer and 62 just fine>
          Pete Bergmann
          2005 - 2013 C6 National Teamleader

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          • William L.
            Very Frequent User
            • November 30, 1988
            • 944

            #6
            Re: Trucks/Towing Power

            Originally posted by Brad Hake (47659)
            As an example the new Ford 3.7L V6 6 Speed Auto 302 @ 6500 RPM 278 @ 4000 Torque, does anyone have one and how does it pull the longer hills with a steeper grade, for a car hauler and corvette, I believe dodge has a similar package probably chevy also. Thanks, Brad.
            There's more to towing than pulling. There's stopping and handling I wouldn't put my family and prize Corvette in anything but at least a 3/4 ton truck with the best trailer with the biggest brakes I could afford. A light truck & trailer are OK when things are going good but when your coming down that steep grade in the rain and some idiot crashes in front of you. You will wish you had the biggest and the best equipment on the planet. Remember BAD things can happen to good people.
            Bill
            Bill Lacy
            1967 427/435 National Top Flight Bloomington Gold
            1998 Indy Pacecar

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            • Gary C.
              Administrator
              • October 1, 1982
              • 17547

              #7
              Re: Trucks/Towing Power

              In my experience great brakes and NO frame flex are two things you never know you need until you need them.

              3/4 ton truck at a minimum. Prefer 3/4 ton with heavy duty 1 ton brakes.

              Am always amazed at some of the car trailer tow vehicles we see at meets.

              Gary
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              • Pat M.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • March 31, 2006
                • 1575

                #8
                Re: Trucks/Towing Power

                Is there any SUV with the towing capabilities of a 3/4 ton truck?

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                • Richard E.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • April 30, 1992
                  • 190

                  #9
                  Re: Trucks/Towing Power

                  My 2010 toyota tundra 5.7 tows my open featherlite and 67 coupe with no problem ... Has 401ft.lbs....16 mpg.

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                  • William L.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • November 30, 1988
                    • 944

                    #10
                    Re: Trucks/Towing Power

                    Originally posted by Gary Chesnut (5895)
                    In my experience great brakes and NO frame flex are two things you never know you need until you need them.

                    3/4 ton truck at a minimum. Prefer 3/4 ton with heavy duty 1 ton brakes.

                    Am always amazed at some of the car trailer tow vehicles we see at meets.

                    Gary
                    ....
                    I agree with you Gary.
                    At a meet not to long ago I watched a Father and his son put a a $125,000 car on a open trailer, surge brakes, one tie down in the front and one in the back. When my friend and I started to talk to them, we were more or less told to mind our own business.
                    Bill Lacy
                    1967 427/435 National Top Flight Bloomington Gold
                    1998 Indy Pacecar

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                    • Gary C.
                      Administrator
                      • October 1, 1982
                      • 17547

                      #11
                      Re: Trucks/Towing Power

                      GMC comparison website - select what SUV's or trucks you want to compare


                      links to Suburban and GMC trailer guides with specs - copy and paste into your browser
                      www.newgmcsierra.com/images/new-GMC-Trailering-Guide.pdf
                      www.chevrolet.com/assets/pdf/en/overview/11_Trailering_Guide.pdf

                      As Bill points out everything's cool until you need to do a panic stop or some jerk cuts you off or somebody wrecks in front of you. Sometimes no matter how much cushion space you give yourself, there are somethings you can't control that you need to be prepared for when towing. Torque and HP are the easy two parts of the towing equation. It's the emergency parts that you need to be equally configured for.

                      JMTCW,

                      Gary
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                      • Jim L.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • September 30, 1979
                        • 1804

                        #12
                        Re: Trucks/Towing Power

                        Originally posted by Brad Hake (47659)
                        .... the new Ford 3.7L V6 6 Speed Auto 302 @ 6500 RPM 278 @ 4000 Torque, does anyone have one and how does it pull the longer hills with a steeper grade, for a car hauler and corvette,
                        If you confined yourself to level ground, you could tow your Corvette on a light open trailer with this vehicle. As soon as you began climbing a grade, though, the wisdom of Dick's words about torque would become apparent.

                        I know of what I speak.

                        In the earliest days of roadracing my Grand Sport, I towed with a 4.3L GMC S-15 Jimmy. Great on level roads, 15+ MPG. However....

                        ....I live in the Sierra Nevada mountains and climbing the grade to our home at 4000' was a slow, miserable, 2nd gear experience. I burned up the transmission.

                        My tow rig now is a Dodge with the 600 ft-lb Cummins Diesel. Night and day difference. Pulling the open trailer into the Sierra is actually pleasant. Even with my enclosed trailer in tow, I can pull out and accelerate to pass while going uphill.

                        Moral: Size matters. Bigger is better. Don't skimp on the tow vehicle.

                        Jim

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                        • William L.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • November 30, 1988
                          • 944

                          #13
                          Re: Trucks/Towing Power

                          For the life of me I don't know why GM doesn't offer a Duramax and Allison in a Suburban ??
                          Bill Lacy
                          1967 427/435 National Top Flight Bloomington Gold
                          1998 Indy Pacecar

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                          • Brad H.
                            Expired
                            • August 12, 2007
                            • 724

                            #14
                            Re: Trucks/Towing Power

                            All good advice but to tow a car in an enclosed maybe 1 or 2 times a year is it worth spending 20K more for some monster you don't need and twice the fuel year round? Safety vs. cost I guess. Thanks all. Brad.

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                            • Steven B.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • June 30, 1982
                              • 3976

                              #15
                              Re: Trucks/Towing Power

                              278 @ 4000 Torque

                              That's alot of screaming for a little bit of torque.

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