spring clips on PVC hose

[Charles S.]

At a recent NCRS judging event I lost points for the spring clamps on my PCV hose. They said they should be flat on top rather than rounded. The ones I have are from LIC and were supposed to be correct. Thus I would like to know if anyone has any pictures of the originals so I know what I am looking for.

[Gene M.]

Re: spring clips on PVC hose

I don't have pictures, just grind the round (part where you squeeze) straight and touch up with paint or magic marker.

[Terry M.]

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I don't have pictures, just grind the round (part where you squeeze) straight and touch up with paint or magic marker.

Close Gene, but a sharp eyed judge will detect the shortened arm on the spring clamp.

[Pat M.]

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Close Gene, but a sharp eyed judge will detect the shortened arm on the spring clamp.

They didn't catch mine at the '08 National. Does that mean my judges weren't sharp?

Seriously, when comparing my shortened ones with originals (some are side-by-side on my car) it's fairly hard to tell the difference.

[Terry M.]

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They didn't catch mine at the '08 National. Does that mean my judges weren't sharp?

Seriously, when comparing my shortened ones with originals (some are side-by-side on my car) it's fairly hard to tell the difference.

We need one of those "this thread is useless without a picture" emoticons.

[Michael M.]

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Terry is correct in saying that a ground edge on a spring clamp is detectable. The original spring clamp edge was cut not ground. I am not saying the edge cannot be made to look like a original but you do have a difference between cut and ground flat.

[Ronald L.]

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This would be a side view of a real one.

Remember the PCV hose clip is a different part number that is a little wider that the gas line clip, and black.


IMHO - grinding off the current repro does not get you exactly the same appearance.

Thus - it comes to chasing these and fortunately the originals are available.

[Pat M.]

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We need one of those "this thread is useless without a picture" emoticons.

You just insist on making me go out to the garage again, huh!

Ok, here's a real green one next to a shortened red one. What I notice is not the length but the different width of the tangs. Detectable? Of course. But perhaps not to a fast moving judge, as was my case, even when looking at 'em side-by-side. And certainly not to Joe Public.

[Rich P.]

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Pat,

here is my take on why you may have been overlooked on this. The red clamps( 1/4") have tangs that are twice as long as the 3/8" fuel line clamps. And with that said the PCV/ power brake hose clamps have even shorter tangs.

Rich

[Pat M.]

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Pat,

here is my take on why you may have been overlooked on this. The red clamps( 1/4") have tangs that are twice as long as the 3/8" fuel line clamps. And with that said the PCV/ power brake hose clamps have even shorter tangs.

Rich

Sounds reasonable, Rich. Perhaps the red clamp tangs are long enough to begin with that they still look fairly normal after being shortened.

[Gary B.]

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Another photo.

[Gene M.]

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Close Gene, but a sharp eyed judge will detect the shortened arm on the spring clamp.

Terry,
Sure any of us judges can tell the difference (shorter legs) but it is such a small minor thing why bother since the owner has made the attempt to look correct. Think of it compared to a clear coat paint job then having dull door jambs. Judge can surely tell that they were doctored. In the whole scheme of things the clamp squared off tops cut back is NOTHING. The poor guy was just looking for an explanation to the deduct for round top clamps.

[Terry M.]

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Terry,
Sure any of us judges can tell the difference (shorter legs) but it is such a small minor thing why bother since the owner has made the attempt to look correct. Think of it compared to a clear coat paint job then having dull door jambs. Judge can surely tell that they were doctored. In the whole scheme of things the clamp squared off tops cut back is NOTHING. The poor guy was just looking for an explanation to the deduct for round top clamps.

Gene,

I don't disagree with you, but I didn't want Chuck to cruise into a judging situation and be surprised at a minor deduction. He could have the situation Pat had, or there could be a minor deduct. It all depends on too many variables that he/we have no control over.

[Terry M.]

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Another photo.

Nice RED on that stick.

[Joe R.]

Re: spring clips on PVC hose

At a recent NCRS judging event I lost points for the spring clamps on my PCV hose. They said they should be flat on top rather than rounded. The ones I have are from LIC and were supposed to be correct. Thus I would like to know if anyone has any pictures of the originals so I know what I am looking for.

Hi Charles:

Since you have a 67, I thought I would add to the other responses by noting that I think the PCV clamp used in 1967 had one rounded tang and two that were sort of straight, as shown in the attached photo.

Earlier C2s had three flat tangs, but the 67 clamp was the first step in converting to rounded tangs. In later years I think all three tangs were rounded, as the current repro units are.

I'd be interested in responses from other's who have studied original 67 PCV clamps.