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  • Brad H.
    Expired
    • August 12, 2007
    • 724

    58 header Bow/windshield

    Can the header bow (stainless piece at top) be taken off without dismantling the entire windshield frame? wouild like to get this off and glue everything for a stronger frame at top for the pull of the soft top. Thanks, Brad.
  • Stan G.
    Expired
    • January 1, 1996
    • 106

    #2
    Re: 58 header Bow/windshield

    Even if you could get it off without disassembly I would not take it off . It is a bear to snap back over the frame without stretching the SS . I worked on mine off and on for months trying to get it back on untill I had to have it and then finaly forced it to snap over the windshield frame . If there is a secret I don't know what it is . The compound curve is what makes it so diffucult . Stan

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    • Brad H.
      Expired
      • August 12, 2007
      • 724

      #3
      Re: 58 header Bow/windshield

      Stan, here is my concern, when I had my windshield redone for my 58 everything went just right and went together just fine including install back on car, the 8 year old soft top that was not correct judging wise fit fine and did not pull on the frame, when I had the new correct soft top put on the installer did not fit the frame to the car as it was for the old top and installed the new fabric to the frame. When he fastened the clamps at the front it pulled the header bow back on the driver's side about a strong 1/4 inch exposing the glass, I was able to get enough adjustment so as to not get it to pull too bad but still show's, the glass guy's think it is a shim problem at the driver's side but It was fine before, they also have the header bow off, (said it is easy to get on and off probably cause they know the trick), my question is with the bow off can a guy glue ( what kind?), the rubber, the track, the rubber etc. and have it hold better than not doing anything, I hate the thought of the whole procedure of total dismantle, do the screws in the bow help hold the whole thing from pulling away, my driver side screw is stripped, any help from anyone would be a great help, especially and easy one, Thanks, Brad.

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      • Stan G.
        Expired
        • January 1, 1996
        • 106

        #4
        Re: 58 header Bow/windshield

        Brad I don't profess to be an expert on C-1 windshields but there was a recent post on the DB about top installers stretching the top so tight to remove any wrinkles that they pull the header loose from the glass as you describe . I think all your glass guy has done is remove the bow and SS as one piece and has not removed the SS from the header . Its possible that your tabs on your door posts are broken and allowing the top of the windshield to pull off of the glass . When you latch the the top to the windshield all of the pressure is on the door posts . Those 6 or so screws on top of the SS go into metal brackets made into the U shaped frame under the SS and are only meant to hold the SS in place . There was a post as well about using adhesive when mounting the windshield to prevent that from happening but I think you will have to dismantle the windshield to do that . Stan

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        • Brad H.
          Expired
          • August 12, 2007
          • 724

          #5
          Re: 58 header Bow/windshield

          Stan, after meeting with the windshield guy today he suggests me to loosen the two driver's side door post bolts and see if the windshield comes up, he thinks that side needed to be shimmed up to keep the header from rolling forward, by shimming it up it will put the header in alignment with the pull of the top frame,? does that make sence? As of now the header is pulled away about a 1/4 inch, driver side, (glass is still encased) you can push the header down tight that quarter inch but it springs back when you release pushing down. Thanks for your input. Brad.

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          • Stan G.
            Expired
            • January 1, 1996
            • 106

            #6
            Re: 58 header Bow/windshield

            Brad I replied via my e-mail and it did'nt post so I'll try again if it posts twice ignore one of them . When you say that the header presses down when you push on it do you mean the whole header assbly or just the SS cover ? The shiny SS is just a cover over the U shaped channel underneath the ties both door posts together . Like I said I don't pretend to be an expert on C-1 windshields only had experience with my own car 10 years ago there are others on this forum that are better qualified than I maybe they will chime in . Is your windshield guy familiar with C-1 windshields?

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            • Brad H.
              Expired
              • August 12, 2007
              • 724

              #7
              Re: 58 header Bow/windshield

              Stan, the stainless bow is off and the track can be pushed down 1/4 inch strong till it rests tight on the glass but then spring back up when you release a hard push on it, tech says the bolts at the post need to be loosen up at that point so as to shim up this point which will put the header toward the front I guess releasing pressure on the header so it will come forward more, doesn't make sence to me because the first top on the car did not pull on the header because it ( the frame was adjusted to the car) before fabric was installed, when new date coded top was put on I believe frame got shortened and when fabric was put on it was too short to reach forward and then when clamped down could only pull the bow toward back, so I don't get why the frame at the post would have to be shimmed when it was fine before. The frame is definately pulled toward the back from the driver side post to about center of bow. thank, Brad

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              • Bruce B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • May 31, 1996
                • 2930

                #8
                Re: 58 header Bow/windshield

                Brad,
                Sometimes when the header pulls off the windshield it will break the tabs on the windshield posts and the only way to fix the situation is to remove the whole windshield assembly.
                It is not a bad job and if you take your time and follow the instructions in the ST12.

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                • Brad H.
                  Expired
                  • August 12, 2007
                  • 724

                  #9
                  Re: 58 header Bow/windshield

                  Thanks for the reply.

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