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  • Dan P.
    Expired
    • April 30, 2001
    • 139

    Shipping Verification Docs - What's the real story?

    I was hoping to get more information recently published in the Restorer about where the Shipping Verification docs came from. The Heritage Center was mentioned, but no particulars.

    Who had the docs? What process was undertaken to find them? What other docs accompanied them? Where were they stored all these years? And of course - are there links to any other docs?

    Inquiring minds...
  • Larry E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • December 1, 1989
    • 1665

    #2
    Re: Shipping Verification Docs - What's the real story?

    If they saved this info for Corvettes; they must have the Camaro
    Shipping Data also. Comments Please

    Larry
    Larry

    LT1 in a 1LE -- One of 134

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    • Michael J.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • January 27, 2009
      • 7101

      #3
      Re: Shipping Verification Docs - What's the real story?

      Ah, if only GM had a Lois Eminger all things would be revealed.
      Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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      • Terry M.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • September 30, 1980
        • 15582

        #4
        Re: Shipping Verification Docs - What's the real story?

        Originally posted by Larry Evoskis (16324)
        If they saved this info for Corvettes; they must have the Camaro
        Shipping Data also. Comments Please

        Larry
        Roy Sinor explained this (the shipping docs for other Chevrolet model lines) at more than several Regional Meets in 2010. I believe he also posted it here.

        Edit add: I searched (briefly) and couldn't find a reference to other Chevrolet model lines in Roy's posts here, so perhaps I am recalling his presentation at the Regionals.
        Last edited by Terry M.; March 26, 2011, 02:32 PM.
        Terry

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        • Dan P.
          Expired
          • April 30, 2001
          • 139

          #5
          Re: Shipping Verification Docs - What's the real story?

          Not sure why, but nobody has given a straight-forward answer regarding where these docs came from, how they were stored, what other docs accompanied them, etc. etc.

          Did I miss it in a previous post?

          If no, the silence is deafening. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, just very curious. I'd be satisfied if somebody just said that info can't be released rather than having everyone talk around it.

          Anybody?

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          • Dick W.
            Former NCRS Director Region IV
            • June 30, 1985
            • 10483

            #6
            Re: Shipping Verification Docs - What's the real story?

            The General controls the who, what, when and where, not NCRS.

            I doubt that any of the other clubs will step up to have the records converted to digital formal. It cost several thousand dollars to do the limited Corvette data,
            Dick Whittington

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            • Larry T.
              Expired
              • May 15, 2007
              • 404

              #7
              Re: Shipping Verification Docs - What's the real story?

              Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
              I doubt that any of the other clubs will step up to have the records converted to digital formal. It cost several thousand dollars to do the limited Corvette data,
              I would think there would be individuals out there that would spend "several thousand dollars" to gain some new info on other GM products of this era. When you say several thousand I hear less than ten, is that accurate?

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              • Dick W.
                Former NCRS Director Region IV
                • June 30, 1985
                • 10483

                #8
                Re: Shipping Verification Docs - What's the real story?

                Originally posted by Larry Tape (47364)
                I would think there would be individuals out there that would spend "several thousand dollars" to gain some new info on other GM products of this era. When you say several thousand I hear less than ten, is that accurate?
                Not much less, and that was for a very small group of cars, imagine the # of Camaros, Chevelles, Nova's etc that were built. I can vision over $50k being spent just on Camaro's
                Dick Whittington

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                • Mark D.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • June 30, 1988
                  • 2144

                  #9
                  Re: Shipping Verification Docs - What's the real story?

                  This is where the information was discovered.

                  Kramden

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                  • Ronald L.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • October 18, 2009
                    • 3248

                    #10
                    Re: Shipping Verification Docs - What's the real story?

                    Mark... or is that

                    Who at the General? The new owner, Obama?

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                    • Dick W.
                      Former NCRS Director Region IV
                      • June 30, 1985
                      • 10483

                      #11
                      Re: Shipping Verification Docs - What's the real story?

                      The document process started over three years ago. There were two people that knew of it until it was a done deal. The keeper of the docs wanted it that way, no publicity.
                      Dick Whittington

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                      • Ronald L.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • October 18, 2009
                        • 3248

                        #12
                        Re: Shipping Verification Docs - What's the real story?

                        So what was the source? The family of the former St Louis plant employee, or ???

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                        • Dan P.
                          Expired
                          • April 30, 2001
                          • 139

                          #13
                          Re: Shipping Verification Docs - What's the real story?

                          Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
                          The document process started over three years ago. There were two people that knew of it until it was a done deal. The keeper of the docs wanted it that way, no publicity.
                          Thanks for the insight, Dick. I understand the myriad of reasons for not getting into greater detail about where the docs came from. At least we have them.

                          I understand that there are those who won't take that for an answer. But the bottom line is that these are docs owned by a public company and their job is to earn a return for their investors. GM doesn't need any more distractions as they have enough on their plate right now. Glad somebody stepped-up and just said it!

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                          • Ray G.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • May 31, 1986
                            • 1189

                            #14
                            Re: Shipping Verification Docs - What's the real story?

                            I say thank you to the people who took the time and initiative to locate and make available these documents.

                            Ray
                            And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
                            I hope you dance


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                            • Dick W.
                              Former NCRS Director Region IV
                              • June 30, 1985
                              • 10483

                              #15
                              Re: Shipping Verification Docs - What's the real story?

                              Originally posted by Ronald Lovelace (50931)
                              So what was the source? The family of the former St Louis plant employee, or ???
                              The rightful and LEGAL owner of them. There are a lot of documents that have been placed into private collections and the public domain without the express permission of GM. This is not one of them

                              Nuff said about this, you can cook up all the conspiracy theories you want to, but the facts have been stated by several posters. It is your choice to believe them or not. Nothing will change those facts.
                              Dick Whittington

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