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  • Ridge K.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 2006
    • 1018

    in response to the closed thread "inconsistant judging"

    I just noticed the thread was closed. I have no idea why it was closed, but it is:

    It was in fact, a fascinating thread with over 3,100 separate member's views. I thank Leonard for starting this thread, sharing what clearly are his heartfelt concerns, and giving us all another glimpse into the heartbeat of the current club make-up. I hope he feels like he got some concerns answered.
    Threads like this can in fact change the very course of a car enthusiast club. I've watched firsthand as the national Chevelle clubs have changed course (partly due to their watching of the NCRS)
    I appreciated every member who participated in expressing their viewpoints, sharing their experiences, and showing their true feelings. I salute once again those who actually judge on the front-lines, .... for helping us all learn just a little more of their perspective. I thank our national judging chairman for once again giving his viewpoint, as his vantage point and field of vision, is more encompassing than most of ours. I likewise once again express my sincere appreciate for the army of volunteers that so graciously give of them time to our fine organization. Thanks are sometimes expressed in these threads, but never quite enough. That is the true backbone of this club. The generosity of those who volunteer, without compensation.

    I had wished that NCRS President Vito Cimilluca had shared his viewpoint on this issue. I realize our president is extremely busy. Sadly, the technical discussion board only heard from our president via postings four times during the past year (excluding official announcements on sticky threads).

    Our club is growing, and the average age of it's membership is clearly dropping. We're now moving into the computer age at a pretty fair clip.

    I stated recently, that I have a distinct feeling that many members desire some changes. As one of the newer members, I for one support those who insist of preserving the integrity of the awards.
    Many other issues, should be openly discussed with those who kindly serve the membership on the board.
    I would urge more communication from that board, including the NCRS President.

    I have personally telephoned my regional director, and have had a very good conversation. While we disagreed a few issues, we agreed on many, many more.
    I attempted to engage this same conservation with NCRS President Cimilluca, but our busy family schedules caused us to miss each others repeated calls. Vito made multiple attempts to return my calls (three or four). More members need ot open constructive and courteous dialogue. Not name calling or labels, ......constructive lines of communication. We're all adults (except for one or two youngsters that I'm very happy they hold membership numbers).
    We've grown, but we've also lost some of our most brilliant minds in these past few years. Have we pondered why.....?

    Lastly, I would urge the 2011 board to become more engaged in the TDB. Although it's mission clearly is discussions of a technical nature regarding these cars we all love, ....often the direction of the club is discussed. I don't know of one single member among the 15,000+ of us, who prefers the board's silence on issues.

    Ridge Kayser (45955)
    Last edited by Ridge K.; February 23, 2011, 09:59 PM. Reason: mis-spell
    Good carburetion is fuelish hot air . . .
  • Frederick W.
    Expired
    • December 4, 2009
    • 159

    #2
    Re: in response to the closed thread "inconsistant judging"

    Here here.
    I agree, Ridge.

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    • Roy S.
      Past National Judging Chairman
      • July 31, 1979
      • 1025

      #3
      Re: in response to the closed thread "inconsistant judging"

      It was not locked by me.

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      • Chuck S.
        Expired
        • April 1, 1992
        • 4668

        #4
        Re: in response to the closed thread "inconsistant judging"

        Originally posted by Dave Perry (19643)
        ...I posit that the last post in that thread was the one that caused a Mod to say "enough". But it pissed me off. No explanation. No post by the Mod that locked it describing the 'action' that he felt was out-of-line and warranted the locking. Just censorship...
        I dunno, Dave...if you're talking about the last post chronilogically, I can't see it. That post was simply relating another abbreviated NCRS case history, and gently questioning a PV failure...that's not a reason to close a thread.

        It certainly wasn't that the thread was off-topic...maybe it was too close to home. I've seen a lot of threads closed on other sites, and they all deserved it. Always, the man with the "powah" made it clear that HE was da' man, and why the thread was being closed...even when it was obvious to everyone participating.

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        • Dick W.
          Former NCRS Director Region IV
          • June 30, 1985
          • 10483

          #5
          Re: in response to the closed thread "inconsistant judging"

          Warn't me either
          Dick Whittington

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          • Michael F.
            Expired
            • June 4, 2009
            • 291

            #6
            Re: in response to the closed thread "inconsistant judging"

            Private sites, reserve the rights.

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            • Ronald L.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • October 18, 2009
              • 3248

              #7
              Re: in response to the closed thread "inconsistant judging"

              I can think of a few other threads that should have been locked.

              Regardless, whom ever is locking these things should say enough and why. Anything else is just not acceptable, newcomer or not.

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              • Valeria H.
                Very Frequent User
                • July 27, 2009
                • 463

                #8
                Re: in response to the closed thread "inconsistant judging"

                Sorry I missed the THREAD on this issue. The issue is very dear to me as I really have started to become a "JUDGE". I can off the bat name some issues with judging (probably quite a few) which were probably already mentioned.

                I have tried to archive the thread but have not been successful. Please tell this neophyte if this is a possibility. Otherwise, I will have to corner someone who read the entire thread.

                This is really important to "Who We Are on the NCRS" and it is my hope that the issue is taken seriously by the Board. I would like to hear from Vito on this subject. It was really nice to meet you here in Charlotte this past year, Vito.
                Valeria Hutchinson
                Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

                1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
                2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"

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                • Larry T.
                  Expired
                  • May 15, 2007
                  • 404

                  #9
                  Re: in response to the closed thread "inconsistant judging"

                  Valeria,

                  Here it is.

                  https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...38651&uid=8012

                  How long til this one is closed?

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                  • Jim D.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • June 30, 1985
                    • 2883

                    #10
                    Re: in response to the closed thread "inconsistant judging"

                    Originally posted by Larry Tape (47364)
                    How long til this one is closed?
                    IBTL. Whoever locked it should have the ballz to post up and say why so the dastardly offense won't be repeated by some unsuspecting soul again. Doubt they will though.

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                    • Valeria H.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • July 27, 2009
                      • 463

                      #11
                      Re: in response to the closed thread "inconsistant judging"

                      Larry,
                      Thank you so much for the link to the thread. I will read it.
                      Valeria Hutchinson
                      Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

                      1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
                      2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"

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                      • Michael J.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • January 27, 2009
                        • 7118

                        #12
                        Re: in response to the closed thread "inconsistant judging"

                        Maybe it was that comment right near the end about Barrett-Jackson. Some on this board are very defensive and emotional about BJ.
                        Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                        • Kenneth H.
                          Expired
                          • October 27, 2008
                          • 500

                          #13
                          Re: in response to the closed thread "inconsistant judging"

                          Not to belabor the point, but another thread, "Cf sinks to new low ..." has been closed, without explanation. That's the second interesting, informative, and admittedly controversial thread that has been closed in a week. What's going on? Was it because it wasn't considered a "Technical Discussion", and therefore not appropriate to the forum? If that's the case, how many other threads over the last year should have been closed for the same reason, that weren't? And if that's not the reason, then what was?

                          Thanks.

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                          • Kenneth B.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • August 31, 1984
                            • 2087

                            #14
                            Re: in response to the closed thread "inconsistant judging"

                            Originally posted by Jim Durham (8797)
                            IBTL. Whoever locked it should have the ballz to post up and say why so the dastardly offense won't be repeated by some unsuspecting soul again. Doubt they will though.
                            I agree! If the poweres that be don't like it you don't see it. I think that the person that locked it should have to put there name to it & why. This is BS
                            65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                            What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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                            • Ronald L.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • October 18, 2009
                              • 3248

                              #15
                              Re: in response to the closed thread "inconsistant judging"

                              Yep, the forum rules should be transparent and clear, if it has to do with restoration and the like, fine, then close down ALL the other threads that don't pertain and...

                              the lock-out guy should put their initials on it, every one else has their name showing and some of those that have the power to lock down were ...how do you say it, man enough?

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