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  • Michael G.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • November 11, 2008
    • 2155

    Differential carrier crossmember bushings

    I've attached two pictures of bushing from the differential crossmember attachment for a 63. Can someone please tell me if the bushings are original or repro?

    Thanks,
    Attached Files
    Mike




    1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
    1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.
  • Rich P.
    Expired
    • January 11, 2009
    • 1361

    #2
    Re: Differential carrier crossmember bushings

    Michael,

    couple things I noticed.
    1 GM pt #
    2 mold release marks on the top
    3 and most imprtantly these are original 63 bushings. Later cars and repro bushings have more tha 4 retaining tabs that get bent over to retain the bushing. I don't know when they changed the # of tabs but these are what I know of as 63'S.

    Rich

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    • Wayne M.
      Expired
      • February 29, 1980
      • 6414

      #3
      Re: Differential carrier crossmember bushings

      Originally posted by Rich Pasqualone (49858)
      .....
      1 GM pt #
      2 mold release marks on the top
      3 and most imprtantly these are original 63 bushings. Later cars and repro bushings have more tha 4 retaining tabs that get bent over to retain the bushing. I don't know when they changed the # of tabs but these are what I know of as 63'S. ....
      Here's the recall notice [2 pages] for replacement of 4-tab bushings with the 8-tabs. In production, happened in '65 starting with VIN 16516.

      Also include a pic of my late '65 original 8-tab., for comparison.





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      • Michael G.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • November 11, 2008
        • 2155

        #4
        Re: Differential carrier crossmember bushings

        Well, if they haven't "pulled out" under 48 yeas of "all" conditions, maybe I'll spit shine 'em and put 'em back in....
        Mike




        1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
        1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • January 31, 1988
          • 43191

          #5
          Re: Differential carrier crossmember bushings

          Originally posted by Michael Garver (49693)
          Well, if they haven't "pulled out" under 48 yeas of "all" conditions, maybe I'll spit shine 'em and put 'em back in....

          Mike------


          I wouldn't. I don't like the apparent condition of the bushing you pictured. I'd say it's "living on borrowed time".
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Michael G.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • November 11, 2008
            • 2155

            #6
            Re: Differential carrier crossmember bushings

            Thanks Joe, I've already got some repops. Just out of curiosity, what's the typical result if one of those bushings fail?
            Mike




            1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
            1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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            • John H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • November 30, 1997
              • 16513

              #7
              Re: Differential carrier crossmember bushings

              Originally posted by Michael Garver (49693)
              I've already got some repops. Just out of curiosity, what's the typical result if one of those bushings fail?
              Mike -

              The load on those bushings is always UP (from the weight of the car on the diff crossmember pushing down on them); the only time the load on the bushing is DOWN is when the car is on a 2-post lift (or when you're "getting air").

              I had an original bushing fail on my '67 about five years ago while driving down the road - a very loud "BANG" right behind my seat. The flange around the top end of the bushing outer shell (where it seats on the top surface of the diff crossmember) failed and sheared off due to corrosion of the flange, and the crossmember then moved upward about 1/2" and grounded against the frame. No drama, just the one loud noise (see photo below before I changed both bushings).
              Attached Files

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              • Michael G.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • November 11, 2008
                • 2155

                #8
                Re: Differential carrier crossmember bushings

                Thanks John,

                The parts look ugly, but it doesn't sound like a big deal....

                I'll have to sacrifice the originality points for condition points, unless I decide that I can handle loud unexpected noises while drinking a latte and texting on I-96 at 85 or so...
                Mike




                1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
                1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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                • John H.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • November 30, 1997
                  • 16513

                  #9
                  Re: Differential carrier crossmember bushings

                  Originally posted by Michael Garver (49693)
                  I'll have to sacrifice the originality points for condition points..
                  Mike -

                  Actually, those bushings and the crossmember aren't mentioned at all in any of the line items on the Chassis scoring sheet; since none of the rear suspension line items are assigned more than five originality points to begin with, I can't imagine more than a one-point deduction for "configuration" of the bushings. Hardly worth agonizing over.

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                  • Michael G.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • November 11, 2008
                    • 2155

                    #10
                    Re: Differential carrier crossmember bushings

                    Thanks, John, I might as well change 'em, Its probably a lot easier now with the cross-member already off the car. I was really surprised that it didn't even need to be pried off; I was already figuring I needed a BIG pry bar for that.
                    Mike




                    1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
                    1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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                    • John H.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • November 30, 1997
                      • 16513

                      #11
                      Re: Differential carrier crossmember bushings

                      Originally posted by Michael Garver (49693)
                      Thanks, John, I might as well change 'em, Its probably a lot easier now with the cross-member already off the car. I was really surprised that it didn't even need to be pried off; I was already figuring I needed a BIG pry bar for that.
                      Mike -

                      Here's an article on changing the bushings you may find useful:

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