New level of ridiculousness on eBay?
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Oh yea, how about this one:
Don Harris
Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)- Top
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Larry, All ya need is one of those yellow GM stamps.what do ya say we go in business on E/bay? As long as there buyer willing to pay that for a rubber hose we should make out like a bandits.New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.- Top
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
The same seller had one go last week for only $105.00.
Don't blame the seller! It's the buyers that set the price in most cases. This item started with an opening bid of $9.95 which would be a very fair price.
This hose is still available from GM under GM #1485552 and GM lists for almost 35 bucks. It may have to be shortened to fit and I'm not sure what the imprinted markings are, but it should be otherwise virtually identical to the originals.
Having a stamp made to duplicate the original GM stamp should be a piece of cake. So, stamping a hose to match this hose should be quite easy. However, I don't know that original hoses or all original hoses were stamped exactly like this one.In Appreciation of John Hinckley- Top
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Donald------
Yes, very expensive. However, this pan is GM-discontinued and there are not a lot of them left out there now. I think it's rather unlikely they'll be reproduced but it's possible. For now, though, if you need one the choices are NOS or used (which are likely to be beat up). All the seller needs is ONE person for whom the pan is worth the price. That's because he probably only has one of these to sell.
Actually, this pan is not absolutely identical to the original pan used on any C1 Corvette, but it's as close as you can get in a NEW pan.Last edited by Joe L.; February 7, 2011, 04:42 PM.In Appreciation of John Hinckley- Top
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Joe, I agree. I believe buyers set the price, not sellers. If the price is too high no one buys and prices are adjusted downward.
I have bought numerous items from John and he always represents his parts well and has more than fair starting points. As you said, this part started at less than $10.- Top
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https://www.forums.ncrs.org/member.php?u=322&uid=1426- Top
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Dick Whittington- Top
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Good for John. A fool and his money are soon parted.Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.
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I don't think the original post was suggesting that the "seller" ( who has now been identified as a NCRS member) is morally bankrupt or a fiendish person. I took it as a commentary on just how stupidly high prices can get when we continually place higher and higher values on originality ! As stated already, the seller clearly met his obligation by placing the starting bid amount at a very reasonable price. The buyer(s) then drove the price up to what it sold for in the end.
From a "devil's advocate"/philosophical point of view it seems to me that the more emphasis we place on having everything absolutely the way it was rolling out of the factory then is it any wonder that someone out there has the audacity to ask 2 grand for a used oil pan !?! Yeah, it's true, the market will determine the price someone eventually pays for it ,but it still doesn't excuse the sellers' greed (in my opinion).
What role do we as NCRS members play in all of this? My guess is that the average enthusiast would gasp at the value we often place on the smallest of details and which are routinely discussed and debated here on a daily basis.
Whatever happened to asking a "fair" price for things ?
Now I recognize the definition of "fair" can be stretched to certain limits by those with selfish motives, but I challenge anyone here on this site to defend the actions of opportunistic gougers whose sole goal it seems is to get as much money as they possibly can for the items they sell.
I have a conscience and while I am well aware of how much used, original, rare parts can be worth for our cars I still believe we all have a responsibility to one another to factor in things such as what we have invested in the item as well as change in value (appreciation) due to real (not imagined or inflated) market trends - and from that hopefully we derive a "fair" price, one that yields a healthy profit for the seller and a decent value for the buyer.
And while I could just as easily blame younger generations for this change in attitude I've come across more than my fair share of 'ol timers at meets, classified ads, etc asking insanely high prices for things that they purchased/invested for a fraction of what they are expecting to now get for these surplus items. The irony (or should I say hypocrisy) of it all is that sometimes these are the same guys lamenting about fading comaraderie and brotherhood in our collective passion for these cars. Sometimes our extremist views on originality can cause a skewed perception of worth - so in the end, I guess, collectively we all reap what we sow !
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You have many "grades" of owners. There are those that want NOTHING buy the original parts that came with their cars. Then again there are those that want everything new and want every reproduction part known to mankind. Then there is the perfectionist, money be damned. They want everything NOS that they can buy.
Several years ago we were restoring a mid year. Pretty much all there, all the interior, with the exception of the carpet usuable. We were getting pretty far along with the restoration and in comes the owner with a NOS set of knock off wheels, hubs, and spinners. Paid well into 5 figures for them. "Oh, by the way, I have some more parts in the pickup" In he comes with another pile including a NOS, in the box, teak steering wheel. All this after we had refinished the original steering wheel and had restored the KO wheels. He added another 25% to the cost of the restoration with all those parts. Oh did I mention, he had a NOS set of F-41 shocks. This went on and on.Last edited by Dick W.; February 7, 2011, 10:35 PM.Dick Whittington- Top
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