65 radiator foil tag "wording"

[David H.]

Wow;
I have been reading the archives for 3 hours and still cannot answer these questions. and judging from the controversy in the past I almost hate to bring it up again!
I have an original 65A radiator in a Feb. built fuel coupe with a 2"wide top support (as 63-4) and a foil label on it that has the "early" style lettering; in which the first sentence ends with the words "that this"; just like my D-62 dated radiator has in a June built 62 250HP ser.#13906. The 62 car has the thicker "plate" type sticker. dimensionally they are the same.
Question 1; Is the the 2' wide top "wrong" for 65 and should I keep it for judging? The radiator is too bad to use for service.
Question 2; Where do I get the foil label with the 62 "plate" style lettering?
Also just a note; The new plate type labels are almost 2 times as thick as my original 62. David

[Timothy B.]

Re: 65 radiator foil tag "wording"

David,

What's the 65 judging manual say for the radiator top mounting? I have a thin foil label upstairs and I will check the wording.

[Wayne M.]

Re: 65 radiator foil tag "wording"

David, Tim --- I think the wording was discussed previously but I can't find it in the archives. The old Dobbins repop I have has the first line ending in "requires that"; the word "this" is on the next line. This is same as Noland shows in Vol 2, page 62 (but he might have been using the same decal supplier). I have the original decal off a 66M radiator that was sprayed black, but I can make out the last words on lines 3, 4, and 5 as "guide", "those" and "specifically". This matches Dobbins and Noland. I have another rad 63M which also has it's decal painted black -- suppose I could try a little lacquer thinner to see what happens. Both of these are thin foil.

As to the top bracket cushion boss; it's 2" wide on the 63M and of course 1" on the 66M. I have a 65F on my car, but with the bracket bolted on, it's hard to tell what the rad boss width is. I notice that the DeWitt website says the 2" for '63 and '64 only.

[David H.]

Re: 65 radiator foil tag "wording"

Thanks Tim; I would like to know if your 65F rad. mount is 2" wide if you can check. If I can find the foil tag with the early wording, (since both wordings are available right now), I would be set. I have my old rad. with all this on top, which I had to very carefully clean black paint off of the foil: The date was there 65A and the correct part# with the 2" wide mount, and the foil tag with the wording exactly like our driver 62; and it is a thick plate type! Just the fact that our 62 original rad. still runs is amazing to me! This is a testament to keeping them insulated with good rubber and full of antifreeze as someone else posted earlier.

I am sure my rad. was original and It was probably just left over from 64 and got the latest date info, Chevy didn't throw them away just because the mount was wide. I would like others to post what they have or had on early 65 rad.s I do not have the latest judging guide, I think mine is 4th ed. I will have to bring my old parts to judging to verify correctness, It would be easy to avoid controversy and buy the "proper" rad. but this "IS" Corvette restoration at it's best!. Thanks again David

[Wayne M.]

Re: 65 radiator foil tag "wording"

....... I would like to know if your 65F rad. mount is 2" wide if you can check. .........., Chevy didn't throw them away just because the mount was wide. I would like others to post what they have or had on early 65 rad.s ...........

David -- Unbolted and removed the top retention bracket; found a 1" wide rad brkt on my 65F (non-original to my early car). So rad design change must have occured somewhere between your Jan (A) and (my) June of 1965. Excuse the dust .

The 5th ed. of the '65 TIM&JG does not go into detail on this feature, nor does it mention the thickness of foil decal or the wording.

[Grant W.]

Re: 65 radiator foil tag "wording"

Wow;
I have been reading the archives for 3 hours and still cannot answer these questions. and judging from the controversy in the past I almost hate to bring it up again!
I have an original 65A radiator in a Feb. built fuel coupe with a 2"wide top support (as 63-4) and a foil label on it that has the "early" style lettering; in which the first sentence ends with the words "that this"; just like my D-62 dated radiator has in a June built 62 250HP ser.#13906. The 62 car has the thicker "plate" type sticker. dimensionally they are the same.
Question 1; Is the the 2' wide top "wrong" for 65 and should I keep it for judging? The radiator is too bad to use for service.
Question 2; Where do I get the foil label with the 62 "plate" style lettering?
Also just a note; The new plate type labels are almost 2 times as thick as my original 62. David

Hi Dave
I think this is the correct foil for your 65. Comparing it to repops the repops are different. This is the real sticker. I even compared it to my NOS radiators and original used ones. It has the same fonts and printing of letters.
Hope this helps.
Grant

[David H.]

Re: 65 radiator foil tag "wording"

Wayne; thanks for your time and effort. I'm sure the 65F and 65A are OK to be 1" wide as this was introduced rather early in the 65 production; well before my 65A. I have had a new radiator made and delivered from DeWitt's with the 2" wide top mount and the early 63 style metal decal. My real issue is the actual decal. My original has a "foil" decal/tag but the words are arranged like the words on the "metal" tag/decal.

I would really like to know how the words on your decal are arranged. On the one I have the first sentence ends with the words "that this" and on the normal 65 foil tag it ends with "that" and the next sentence starts with "this" Check your tag and see how it is. David

[David H.]

Re: 65 radiator foil tag "wording"

Thanks Grant; Yes those are correct and most originals are like yours. I have some off the wall foil sticker, which is on the original radiator, with the words arranged just like the late 62--early 63 metal tag. I will try to get picture on here next. David

[Timothy B.]

Re: 65 radiator foil tag "wording"

David,

The aluminum foil tag I have reads exactly like the pictures Grant Posted. I don't have a 65 radiator, the old junk radiator I believe the foil tag came from is dated 64 but it's long gone.

Sorry I can't help more, I am sure other 64-65 owners with original radiators may have some input..

[David H.]

Re: 65 radiator foil tag "wording"

here are some pictures of my old 65 radiator top. has anyone ever seen a "foil" tag like this? David

[Wayne M.]

Re: 65 radiator foil tag "wording"

here are some pictures of my old 65 radiator top. has anyone ever seen a "foil" tag like this? David

David -- this just popped up on eBay. A 64B rad with wording the same as yours.

[David H.]

Re: 65 radiator foil tag "wording"

Wow! thanks Wayne; I'll go look at the rest of it on e-bay. At least I know the sticker exist somewhere in the real world. I also saw one in the vette vues book. David