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  • Tom R.
    Expired
    • December 20, 2010
    • 177

    New Member 1963 Fuelie S-tube Question

    I have been lurking about on the Forum for about 6 months and finally signed up this week. This website is a fountain of knowlege and seems to be a whole lot friendlier and cordially professional than others I have visited.

    A while back I purchased a 1963 early F.I. SWC with BW T-10. Since it first came out when I was in high school in Whittier, CA, I've loved this body style. My next door neighbor had one and really took it apart. I was younger than he was and thought his work was great. Now I look back and think what a mistake he made modifying it.

    This is my fifth Corvette, having ordered a new 1973 coupe from Harry Mann in 1972, a 1992 coupe, a 1995 coupe, a 2001 convert and now the 1963. Most everything on the 63 seems to line up. I looked at all the threads on engine stamps and broach marks, casting dates, transmission codes and stamps and have a signed copy of Noland Adams' book and studied those well before the purchase. Seems all the critical items are there...even the radiator support with the bumps at the horns, the all steel F.I. AC, correct adaptor for the FI, Distributor, window glass and on. I even learned to look at where the FI emblems were mounted (particularly the driver's side) and to check for the AC brace bracket inside the driver's fender to make sure it didn't have undercoat on it, and it didn't. It was a full frame off restoration by a gentleman in the San Francisco Bay area between 1994-5 and pretty much hasn't been touched since. The fiberglass all looks to be original with remnants of the seam sealers and the birdcage has a little bit of normal surface rust on it and from what I could see from the front vents, underdash on both sides with gloveox removed and inspection plates at the rear tires, most everything looks OK and it doesn't leak!! My 1973 leaked. There were a few little things not correct (Well by NCRS Top Flight Stds. a lot of little things) like an aftermarket cassette radio and stereo speaker, dull wipers, bolts and some clamps etc. that I am now fixing. Found a nice old early 63 radio and had it serviced along with a correct speaker and it sounds like it did when I was in high school. Shows well although I would not categorize the paint as show quality. Has some road dings and a few little stress cracks here and there at corners of headlight doors, c-pillar vents, etc. Not noticeable from four feet away. I'm going to drive it just like it is.

    I really learned alot from this discussion board more than from anywhere else I looked. You guys are great and I look forward to more learning and participation in the future. I ordered my shipping report and look forward to finding out where it was first delivered.

    I do have a question and haven't been able through research to find out where to get a 63 FI AC S-tube clamp. Looks like they either misplaced it or left it off. I've seen discussions but didn't really see who offers them for sale. Jack Podell? Any help or direction pointers anyone can offer would be appreciated. Thanks again for a great site.

    Tom Remillard
  • Don H.
    Moderator
    • June 16, 2009
    • 2258

    #2
    Re: New Member 1963 Fuelie S-tube Question

    Let me be first to say welcome aboard! I don't know the answer to your FI question because I don't have one. Maybe someday!
    Merry Christmas!

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    • Jim T.
      Expired
      • March 1, 1993
      • 5351

      #3
      Re: New Member 1963 Fuelie S-tube Question

      Tom a person that has many years of experience with fuel injection rebuilding that most likely can help is John DeGregory. He is also posts here often.
      Last edited by Jim T.; December 24, 2010, 06:46 PM.

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      • Tom R.
        Expired
        • December 20, 2010
        • 177

        #4
        Re: New Member 1963 Fuelie S-tube Question

        Originally posted by Jim Trekell (22375)
        Tom a person that has many years of experience with fuel injection rebuilding that most likely can help is John DeGregory. He is also posts here often.
        Thanks Jim, I will do just that.

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        • John D.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • December 1, 1979
          • 5507

          #5
          Re: New Member 1963 Fuelie S-tube Question

          Hi Tom, I have never owned one of these clamps as typically they were spot welded to the s-tube.
          I have seen 63 s-tubes that have had this clamp attached backwards from norm. Meaning when you looked at the AC in the car instead of seeing the bolt head on the clamp you actually see the threaded end of the bolt.
          Podell has been reproducing these air cleaners for many years. If anyone has a repro it has to be him. As far as an finding an original i am sorry to say I cannot help you at the present time.
          Maybe Robert Jorjorian can help. He often is on this forum. Good luck, JD

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          • Tom R.
            Expired
            • December 20, 2010
            • 177

            #6
            Re: New Member 1963 Fuelie S-tube Question

            I have now spoken to Podell, DeGregory and a couple of others and no dice on finding either a repro or original s-tube clamp. I spoke to someone who posted an ad in the Driveline and he suggested that I could make one with the help of a good sheet metal shop.

            Can someone please post a picture of the S-tube clamp, specifically the area where the bolt and and nut are located. Seems there may be some fabrication there to be done. Have seen lots of pix but none that can be enlarged to see any kind of detail. Thanks.

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            • Jim B.
              Expired
              • December 1, 2004
              • 54

              #7
              Re: New Member 1963 Fuelie S-tube Question

              Tom--I've got five photos that may help (could only upload 4 here--send me your email and I'll send you the whole set). You'll note the paint is too glossy on this S-tube but the photos will give you the general clamp configuration idea. I believe the "iTi" stamp appears in two locations, but I don't know whether the locations are the same on each S-tube. Looks like the welded nut is spot-welded to the clamp on each corner (on the photo I couldn't include here). Good luck with the fabrication.
              Attached Files

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              • Tom R.
                Expired
                • December 20, 2010
                • 177

                #8
                Re: New Member 1963 Fuelie S-tube Question

                Originally posted by Jim Bensko (42995)
                Tom--I've got five photos that may help (could only upload 4 here--send me your email and I'll send you the whole set). You'll note the paint is too glossy on this S-tube but the photos will give you the general clamp configuration idea. I believe the "iTi" stamp appears in two locations, but I don't know whether the locations are the same on each S-tube. Looks like the welded nut is spot-welded to the clamp on each corner (on the photo I couldn't include here). Good luck with the fabrication.
                Jim,

                Couldn't have received any better than those. My email is coming to you in a PM shortly. Thank you so much.

                Tom

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                • David H.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • December 1, 1996
                  • 241

                  #9
                  Re: New Member 1963 Fuelie S-tube Question

                  Tom; Do you have the early AC housing with the finger clamps rotated as to interfere with the valve cover? Or is yours the later 63 style? David Harris

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                  • Tom A.
                    NCRS Body & Paint Advisor
                    • May 31, 1986
                    • 138

                    #10
                    Re: New Member 1963 Fuelie S-tube Question

                    Originally posted by Tom Remillard (52582)
                    I have been lurking about on the Forum for about 6 months and finally signed up this week. This website is a fountain of knowlege and seems to be a whole lot friendlier and cordially professional than others I have visited.

                    A while back I purchased a 1963 early F.I. SWC with BW T-10. Since it first came out when I was in high school in Whittier, CA, I've loved this body style. My next door neighbor had one and really took it apart. I was younger than he was and thought his work was great. Now I look back and think what a mistake he made modifying it.

                    This is my fifth Corvette, having ordered a new 1973 coupe from Harry Mann in 1972, a 1992 coupe, a 1995 coupe, a 2001 convert and now the 1963. Most everything on the 63 seems to line up. I looked at all the threads on engine stamps and broach marks, casting dates, transmission codes and stamps and have a signed copy of Noland Adams' book and studied those well before the purchase. Seems all the critical items are there...even the radiator support with the bumps at the horns, the all steel F.I. AC, correct adaptor for the FI, Distributor, window glass and on. I even learned to look at where the FI emblems were mounted (particularly the driver's side) and to check for the AC brace bracket inside the driver's fender to make sure it didn't have undercoat on it, and it didn't. It was a full frame off restoration by a gentleman in the San Francisco Bay area between 1994-5 and pretty much hasn't been touched since. The fiberglass all looks to be original with remnants of the seam sealers and the birdcage has a little bit of normal surface rust on it and from what I could see from the front vents, underdash on both sides with gloveox removed and inspection plates at the rear tires, most everything looks OK and it doesn't leak!! My 1973 leaked. There were a few little things not correct (Well by NCRS Top Flight Stds. a lot of little things) like an aftermarket cassette radio and stereo speaker, dull wipers, bolts and some clamps etc. that I am now fixing. Found a nice old early 63 radio and had it serviced along with a correct speaker and it sounds like it did when I was in high school. Shows well although I would not categorize the paint as show quality. Has some road dings and a few little stress cracks here and there at corners of headlight doors, c-pillar vents, etc. Not noticeable from four feet away. I'm going to drive it just like it is.

                    I really learned alot from this discussion board more than from anywhere else I looked. You guys are great and I look forward to more learning and participation in the future. I ordered my shipping report and look forward to finding out where it was first delivered.

                    I do have a question and haven't been able through research to find out where to get a 63 FI AC S-tube clamp. Looks like they either misplaced it or left it off. I've seen discussions but didn't really see who offers them for sale. Jack Podell? Any help or direction pointers anyone can offer would be appreciated. Thanks again for a great site.

                    Tom Remillard
                    You might try Andy Cannizo

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                    • Tom R.
                      Expired
                      • December 20, 2010
                      • 177

                      #11
                      Re: New Member 1963 Fuelie S-tube Question

                      Originally posted by David Harris (28580)
                      Tom; Do you have the early AC housing with the finger clamps rotated as to interfere with the valve cover? Or is yours the later 63 style? David Harris
                      David,

                      Although mine is an early car (October 16, 1962) it has the rotated AC housing with the lower most finger clamp pointed just about at the 5 o'clock position looking toward the front of the car and it does not interfere with the valve cover. The whole system is steel, and I know it was walnut shell blasted and painted by the restorer in 1994.. I don't know the story on how that particular Air Cleaner assembly came to be on my car.

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                      • Tom R.
                        Expired
                        • December 20, 2010
                        • 177

                        #12
                        Re: New Member 1963 Fuelie S-tube Question

                        Originally posted by Tom Ames (9906)
                        You might try Andy Cannizo
                        Tom,

                        Will do. How do I find him? Sorry for the dumb question but I'm new to this madness.

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