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  • William H.
    Very Frequent User
    • January 1, 2006
    • 209

    Big block coolant leak out lower head bolt

    I have a 1968 big block L-89 engine that I had to pull the driver side head off of. There was a pin hole leak in the exhaust port which we welded. When I re-installed the head, I have coolant leaking out the 3rd bolt back from the front on the lower side (short bolt under exhaust manifold). It's a small drip type leak. I understand the four lower short bolts go through the water jackets. I used permitex thread sealant on the threads and black RTV on the bolt shafts when I installed and torqued. The three other bolts seem good and dry. There was still a little water in the hole when I installed because I was not able to drain fully from the radiator. Any suggestions other than block sealant? Thanks for your expertise.
    Bill Hyndman

    The 'Sound of Freedom' if not a UH-60 Blackhawk, then it must be a Corvette!

    1962 Big Brake Fuelie
    1965 Fuelie Convertible
    1968 L89 Convertible
  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    #2
    Re: Big block coolant leak out lower head bolt

    Are you sure there is not a crack? Loctite (Permatex) pipe sealant with teflon almost always seals any leaks.
    Dick Whittington

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    • William H.
      Very Frequent User
      • January 1, 2006
      • 209

      #3
      Re: Big block coolant leak out lower head bolt

      Dick. I am almost positive it is coming up through the bolt. I used permatex thread sealer but not locktite. There was also water in the bolt hole when I installed so I did not know if that could have caused the problem. Thank you for a suggestion. Bill
      Bill Hyndman

      The 'Sound of Freedom' if not a UH-60 Blackhawk, then it must be a Corvette!

      1962 Big Brake Fuelie
      1965 Fuelie Convertible
      1968 L89 Convertible

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      • Dick W.
        Former NCRS Director Region IV
        • June 30, 1985
        • 10483

        #4
        Re: Big block coolant leak out lower head bolt

        Originally posted by William Hyndman (45161)
        Dick. I am almost positive it is coming up through the bolt. I used permatex thread sealer but not locktite. There was also water in the bolt hole when I installed so I did not know if that could have caused the problem. Thank you for a suggestion. Bill
        Bill Loctite and Permatex are one and the same, Loctite owns Permatex.
        Dick Whittington

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        • Michael G.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • January 1, 1997
          • 1251

          #5
          Re: Big block coolant leak out lower head bolt

          Originally posted by Dick Whittington (8804)
          Bill Loctite and Permatex are one and the same, Loctite owns Permatex.
          Both name brands may be owned my the same corporation Dick but are two different products with their own unique application.

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43220

            #6
            Re: Big block coolant leak out lower head bolt

            Originally posted by William Hyndman (45161)
            Dick. I am almost positive it is coming up through the bolt. I used permatex thread sealer but not locktite. There was also water in the bolt hole when I installed so I did not know if that could have caused the problem. Thank you for a suggestion. Bill
            Bill------


            If you use any type of good sealer that should prevent any coolant from coming up the bolt threads. I prefer Locktite Pipe Thread Sealer with Teflon. However, as I say, any good sealer should do the trick. If it does not, I would say there's some other problem.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Domenic T.
              Expired
              • January 29, 2010
              • 2452

              #7
              Re: Big block coolant leak out lower head bolt

              Bill I have seen that happen before. When you go to reseal it I wound sugest draining the block on that side and drying the threads with air before re-sealing the bolt. All the head bolts enter the water jacket.

              DOM

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43220

                #8
                Re: Big block coolant leak out lower head bolt

                Originally posted by Domenic Tallarita (51287)
                Bill I have seen that happen before. When you go to reseal it I wound sugest draining the block on that side and drying the threads with air before re-sealing the bolt. All the head bolts enter the water jacket.

                DOM
                DOM and Bill-----


                Whenever sealant is used on a threaded system, the threads MUST be scrupulously clean and dry. If not, the chances that the sealer is going to be effective is about 50-50, or less.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Dick W.
                  Former NCRS Director Region IV
                  • June 30, 1985
                  • 10483

                  #9
                  Re: Big block coolant leak out lower head bolt

                  Originally posted by Michael Gill (28614)
                  Both name brands may be owned my the same corporation Dick but are two different products with their own unique application.
                  Michael, I have both Loctite PST and Permatex pipe sealant with teflon in my tool box. Appear to be the same product
                  Dick Whittington

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                  • Ronald L.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • October 18, 2009
                    • 3248

                    #10
                    Re: Big block coolant leak out lower head bolt

                    Loctite is a brand, depending upon the type, if it is cyano acrylate, it fails with moisture...if wet going in, it has high probability to not cure properly and not seal.
                    Make sure its dry as a bone.

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