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  • Rob M.
    NCRS IT Developer
    • January 1, 2004
    • 12738

    C2 Radiator support

    I just unmounted the radiator support of my late '63. Since this car never had any front damage I would suspect the radiator support would have been original to the car but it doesn't have the typical humps where the horn should be mounted.

    Does anyone know what the origins of this radiator support is and any suggestion why it would be in my car now?

    regards,
    Rob.
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    Rob.

    NCRS Dutch Chapter Founder & Board Member
    NCRS Software Developer
    C1, C2 and C3 Registry Developer
  • Harry S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 2002
    • 5301

    #2
    Re: C2 Radiator support

    Rob, the humps are there, look again.
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    Last edited by Harry S.; November 7, 2010, 02:17 PM.


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    • Harry S.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • July 31, 2002
      • 5301

      #3
      Re: C2 Radiator support

      Rob, as I recall all replacements came with the hole for fuelie cars.


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      • Rob M.
        NCRS IT Developer
        • January 1, 2004
        • 12738

        #4
        Re: C2 Radiator support

        Originally posted by Harry Sadlock (38513)
        Rob, as I recall all replacements came with the hole for fuelie cars.
        But the question is why would it be replaced? The rest of the car isn't in to bad shape so I don't think the original rusted out and as I stated before no major front damage or signs of replacement front end (all the seams matches my expectations after stripping and sanding the car and all the bonding strips are there)...

        Is there a chance this late car (July 2, 1963, #18658) used a 1964 rad support and would that explain the fuelie hole in the rad support (did all the 1964 cars have the fuelie hole or should a non-fuelie car in 1964 also not have the fuelie hole)?
        Last edited by Rob M.; November 7, 2010, 02:56 PM.
        Rob.

        NCRS Dutch Chapter Founder & Board Member
        NCRS Software Developer
        C1, C2 and C3 Registry Developer

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        • Dan H.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 31, 1977
          • 1369

          #5
          Re: C2 Radiator support

          Rob, the service replacement for 63 to 65? was with the 'hole' for FI. Probably your original rusted out on the bottom (common) and the replacement would have been the 64 style service part.
          Dan
          1964 Red FI Coupe, DUNTOV '09
          Drove the 64 over 5000 miles to three Regionals and the San Jose National, one dust storm and 40 lbs of bugs!

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          • Sydney G.
            Very Frequent User
            • February 1, 1994
            • 443

            #6
            Re: C2 Radiator support

            Hi Rob,

            My '63 also had the same replacement rad support in it and I know it was there dating back to at least 1980 or so. The original probably rusted as Dan pointed out. I've since replaced it and sold the FI support.

            If your going to replace it with the correct support, I think that there might have been an 'early' and a 'late' version for '63 but I was never clear what the difference was between the two??

            Hopefully someone knows the difference or can correct me if I'm mistaken.

            Syd

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            • Loren L.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • April 30, 1976
              • 4104

              #7
              Re: C2 Radiator support

              You can't miss the '63 humps I think you're referring to - 2 inches wide, 4 or 5 inches tall on both sides at the bottom of the front of the support. If memory serves, I think the rods that make the "X" also have "straps" over each of the ends on originals and the straps are not there on service replacements. I'm told, however, that the new repros are quite good.

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              • John H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • December 1, 1997
                • 16513

                #8
                Re: C2 Radiator support

                Here's an original '63 radiator support - the "hump" on the side where the horn mounts is quite prominent; the small horizontal rib is for horn orientation. Note the welded "strap" over the end of the cross-rod, and typical rust-out at the bottom.
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                • Rob M.
                  NCRS IT Developer
                  • January 1, 2004
                  • 12738

                  #9
                  Re: C2 Radiator support

                  Did '64 models also had these humbs and if they didn't could my late car have the '64 model support fitted and therefor lack the humbs?
                  Rob.

                  NCRS Dutch Chapter Founder & Board Member
                  NCRS Software Developer
                  C1, C2 and C3 Registry Developer

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                  • Timothy B.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 30, 1983
                    • 5186

                    #10
                    Re: C2 Radiator support

                    Sydney,

                    I believe the early, late difference in the core support has something to do with a hole for the auto transmission lines.

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                    • John H.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • December 1, 1997
                      • 16513

                      #11
                      Re: C2 Radiator support

                      Originally posted by Rob Musquetier (41157)
                      Did '64 models also had these humbs and if they didn't could my late car have the '64 model support fitted and therefor lack the humbs?
                      Rob -

                      As I recall, the large "humps" were a '63-only feature; as Dan noted in post #6, it's likely that your original support rusted out and was replaced, and the replacement parts were the later "non-hump" style, with the F.I. air intake hole.

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                      • Sydney G.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • February 1, 1994
                        • 443

                        #12
                        Re: C2 Radiator support

                        Originally posted by Rob Musquetier (41157)
                        Aha, then I didn't understand what to look for. My car doesn't have the emblem holes which would be expected for a fuelie and had a low rev. tach so I don't think it was ever a fuelie car...
                        Originally posted by Harry Sadlock (38513)
                        Rob, the humps are there, look again.

                        Sorry but confused,

                        Harry points out that Rob's recently removed 'service replacement' support has the '63 Humps.
                        From what I can see the picture shows it has the straps too.
                        The support I removed and then sold years later from my mid-May '63 had the same features and my coupe is also a non fuel (300hp).

                        Would the service replacement supports, circa 1970's, have these '63 features or did the 1963 production line install them 'by mistake' ??

                        Syd

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                        • Timothy B.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 30, 1983
                          • 5186

                          #13
                          Re: C2 Radiator support

                          Sydney,

                          I think Harry may be mistaken when he identified the hump refered to in this post. There are humps for horn mounting but 1963's have a large hump in the front as shown in John's picture.

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                          • Paul J.
                            Expired
                            • September 9, 2008
                            • 2091

                            #14
                            Re: C2 Radiator support

                            This an early 64 showing the small humps for the horns, but no large raised area like John's picture. This is also an FI support.
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                            • Jim L.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • September 30, 1979
                              • 1808

                              #15
                              Re: C2 Radiator support

                              Originally posted by Timothy Barbieri (6542)
                              Sydney,

                              I believe the early, late difference in the core support has something to do with a hole for the auto transmission lines.
                              This is true, however "early" and "late" are relative terms. My October-built '63 has the "early" support without the trans cooler line holes. My December-built '63 (RIP) had the "late" support.

                              Jim

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