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[Edward B.]

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For what it's worth, I haven't bothered to look at The Driveline for the last two or three years. If I need something, I want it now and do not try to buy from a print ad that is often out of date. It is time to move forward and put "For Sale" on-line.

[Patrick H.]

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If VOLUNTEERS will do it for FREE... what excuses are left?

The main office makes, as Gary notes, $100k in ad revenue each year and is loathe to do anything that would change that.
It's all about the money.

[Michael W.]

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The main office makes, as Gary notes, $100k in ad revenue each year and is loathe to do anything that would change that.
It's all about the money.

Which would not diminish one penny if the same ads were carried over to an on-line for sale section so I'm having trouble understanding the down side.

[Patrick H.]

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Which would not diminish one penny if the same ads were carried over to an on-line for sale section so I'm having trouble understanding the down side.

Some people just don't like change.

[Gary C.]

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Gordon,

You're on our list to contact. Appreciate your stepping up.

We three create, manage, system test & maintain databases that jointly have more than 120 tables for; Membership, cars, Judging points, Events,Awards, Memorial web page, on-line voting just to name a few of the apps...

In addition we provide training & support for the 44 Chapters that use NCRS on-line services & functionality as well as write Tech & docs instructions for the Chapters.

The TDB is probably about 2~3% of what we do. Forgot to mention web site security against hacking & SQL injection, Knowledge Base & HelpDesk.

Gary
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[Ronald F.]

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Terry, I read them and don't see any reasons except not many online and some think senior members don't know their way around the web. Was there anything else?

Ron,

Read my posts in this thread and then tell me about the reasons for not having a for sale section. Or maybe I am being too subtle? If so I can "speak" more clearly.

[Roy S.]

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The main office makes, as Gary notes, $100k in ad revenue each year and is loathe to do anything that would change that.
It's all about the money.

Well it had to happen sooner or later, now you want to make it personal. I have sat in board meetings for 20 plus years. In those 20 plus years I have never heard anyone from the main office defend or criticize the pros and cons of online for sale ads; doubt you will see them chime in on the discussion board either, they simply do their work and a lot of it.

Since you think they are loathe to do anything that would effect the revenue I suppose that means you would not be loathe to loosing 100K of revenue from your practice?

Some people just don't like change.

I think it might be more practical to understand that some people realize change without rationalization that is factual and accurate will ultimately cause the dues to rise, because the simple fact is the revenue generation that is lost could result in increased dues.

[Patrick H.]

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Well it had to happen sooner or later, now you want to make it personal. I have sat in board meetings for 20 plus years. In those 20 plus years I have never heard anyone from the main office defend or criticize the pros and cons of online for sale ads; doubt you will see them chime in on the discussion board either, they simply do their work and a lot of it.

Since you think they are loathe to do anything that would effect the revenue I suppose that means you would not be loathe to loosing 100K of revenue from your practice?



I think it might be more practical to understand that some people realize change without rationalization that is factual and accurate will ultimately cause the dues to rise, because the simple fact is the revenue generation that is lost could result in increased dues.

Roy,

See my post in the other thread:
https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...985#post648985

There is no need to lose any revenue at all.
Many companies have been build using ads on internet forum pages and there is no reason that the NCRS can't be the same.

And yes, our practice loses revenue streams on a regular basis. One of them was, in fact, over $100,000 per year and ended on December 31st. However, we're also constantly looking into new ways to improve that while continuing to serve the needs of our patients.

PS - I'm done on this issue. Time to talk about cars again.

[Patrick B.]

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Regarding the small number of NCRS members who use the TDB, it is possible that most members are not aware that it exists. I have been a member of NCRS and a faithful (but perhaps not sufficiently thorough) reader of Corvette Restorer for many years, but I was not aware of the TDB until someone sent me a link to a particular thread simply because it was a subject he thought I was interested in.

If online ads as some sort of extension to the Driveline were publicized, I think the effect would be to increase the awareness of members to all online aspects of NCRS. In fact, just an article in the Restorer about the TDB as an underutilized resource may attract the participation of lots of people like me who didn't keep current with what was available on the NCRS website.

I certainly don't believe that the small numbers of members active in the TDB is a valid argument against online ads. If anything, more members going online to look at ads would stumble upon the TDB and find it as interesting as I do.

[Roy V.]

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there is a poll at the top of the page to express your desire for an online 'For Sale' section
Don't forget to vote, polls close on Feb 14th
Regards
Roy

[Harold M.]

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why don't we open new areas to the site and see where the forums go from there. I would be ok with no "for sale" section for now. but lets make this forum attractive in other ways like; parts wanted, cars wanted, members projects page, dealer info, off topic section.... I sign in once every 2 years and there is NOTHING new, only the date has changed. that's why no members are on here.

[Tracy C.]

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Agree Roy, and thank you for your candid opinion.
tc

[Terry M.]

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592 members anticipated on the TDB since 1/1/2013

For the other members we apparently we can not make it interesting enough with the current content to come back...

Sorry Rob, maybe I am thick, but what does "members anticipated" mean? That implies to me that you are counting something that doesn't yet exist -- which makes me suspicious.
I want to know how many unique members visited the tech board during the month of January 2013. Why is that so hard?

[Bill C.]

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you know - there is only one way to fix the dead-lock at the BOD level ----

but

I won't say it - cause it will probably have me banned for two life times... :-;


think Franklin D. Roosevelt.....

[Rob M.]

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Sorry Rob, maybe I am thick, but what does "members anticipated" mean? That implies to me that you are counting something that doesn't yet exist -- which makes me suspicious.
I want to know how many unique members visited the tech board during the month of January 2013. Why is that so hard?

Sorry that is exactly what I queried for, my English is possibly playing up (as non-native English speaker, anticipated should have been participated).