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  • Guy M.
    Very Frequent User
    • November 1, 1993
    • 500

    54 crossmember shims

    Does the tapered shims really help a 54 even though they are not supposed to be there. I have a pair and am ready to bolt the crossmember down but i'm wondering if I should use them. I dont cae about judging. Thanks folks!
  • Mike M.
    NCRS Past President
    • May 31, 1974
    • 8382

    #2
    Re: 54 crossmember shims

    use them. the 54 will handle a bit better. mike

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    • Guy M.
      Very Frequent User
      • November 1, 1993
      • 500

      #3
      Re: 54 crossmember shims

      Thanks Mike. I appreciate it!

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      • David G.
        Very Frequent User
        • May 31, 1980
        • 275

        #4
        Re: 54 crossmember shims

        I agree with mike. They added the shims for a reason. It will help with any excessive play that you may have in the steering.
        Dave

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        • Gary C.
          Administrator
          • October 1, 1982
          • 17657

          #5
          Re: 54 crossmember shims

          David, FYI - shims were added as a result of Duntov's Daytona speed run testing. TSB attached that discussions the shim additions in '56. Gary....
          Attached Files
          NCRS Texas Chapter
          https://www.ncrstexas.org/

          https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61565408483631

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          • David G.
            Very Frequent User
            • May 31, 1980
            • 275

            #6
            Re: 54 crossmember shims

            Gary, Thanks for posting the TSB. I had not seen this one before.
            Regards, Dave

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            • Troy P.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • February 1, 1989
              • 1284

              #7
              Re: 54 crossmember shims

              The 3rd arm is different in cars that have the shims. I have shims and a 54 and was considering installing them but I attended a lecture at the NCRS nationals last year on front end restoration and understood you'd need to install the later 3rd arm also. I seem to racall there would be an interference if the early 3rd arm was used and the wheels could not be turned all the way.

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              • David G.
                Very Frequent User
                • May 31, 1980
                • 275

                #8
                Re: 54 crossmember shims

                Troy,
                Last month I did a lot of work on a friends 54, Including replacing the steering
                box, replacing tie rod ends, and 3rd arm bearing. This car had previously had front suspension shims installed. After the front end alignment was completed, the car drove like a dream. Or at least as good at a 54 could be expected to drive with older bias ply tires.
                Dave

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                • Troy P.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • February 1, 1989
                  • 1284

                  #9
                  Re: 54 crossmember shims

                  Sorry I just realized I was incorrect. It is not the 3rd arm that differs it is the 3rd arm support. The 3rd arm support has a part number cast on it. Do you happen to know if it is a 53-55 part or a 56 and later part?

                  BTW, I once asked Zora Duntov what I could do to upgrade a 54 for better handling and performance and he said, "Buy a 56."

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                  • Guy M.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • November 1, 1993
                    • 500

                    #10
                    Re: 54 crossmember shims

                    Thanks for the input, I guess Ill just leave them out as I have my front end done and on a dolly. Im better off not installing if I'm not sure, just one more thing to get rid of later.

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                    • Troy P.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • February 1, 1989
                      • 1284

                      #11
                      Re: 54 crossmember shims

                      Well the success stories about just adding the shims without changing any other parts are interesting though. After you show the car you can always add the shims without too much trouble. So hang on to them?

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                      • Guy M.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • November 1, 1993
                        • 500

                        #12
                        Re: 54 crossmember shims

                        Has anybody just slipped them in without changing anything on an original car and not have any noticeable reprocusions in steering as it relates to tire rub???

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