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  • Kirk M.
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    • June 30, 2006
    • 1036

    67 Front Door Seal Question

    I know there is something wrong with the way this seal is mounted, but I'm not exactly sure. I believe it is missing a rivet. Could someone show a picture of what it should look like and tell me what is missing. Thanks.

    Kirk
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    Last edited by Kirk M.; October 24, 2010, 07:08 PM.
  • Kirk M.
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    • June 30, 2006
    • 1036

    #2
    Re: 67 Front Door Seal Question - What's Wrong Here

    Come on guys, you're usually great at pointing out everything wrong in a picture?

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    • Scott S.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • September 11, 2009
      • 1961

      #3
      Re: 67 Front Door Seal Question

      Kirk,

      Here is what came off the '67 coupe I'm working on. I don't know if they are original or not, none appear to have been chrome.
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      Last edited by Scott S.; October 24, 2010, 09:46 PM. Reason: added pictures

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      • Scott S.
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        • September 11, 2009
        • 1961

        #4
        Re: 67 Front Door Seal Question

        Here is a picture of a driver's side door seal that I took of a 1967 L79 convertible at Carlisle (in the car corral) this year. It was a Top Flight car and has the black screws, FWIW.
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        • Kirk M.
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          • June 30, 2006
          • 1036

          #5
          Re: 67 Front Door Seal Question

          I thought the judges said something about a missing rivet. Any differences here between AO Smith and St. Louis bodies?

          Kirk

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          • Scott S.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • September 11, 2009
            • 1961

            #6
            Re: 67 Front Door Seal Question

            Originally posted by Kirk McHugh (46057)
            I thought the judges said something about a missing rivet. Any differences here between AO Smith and St. Louis bodies?

            Kirk
            Good question. The body of the car I'm working on is a St. Louis body, not sure about the Marina blue Top Flight example.

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            • William L.
              Very Frequent User
              • December 1, 1988
              • 944

              #7
              Re: 67 Front Door Seal Question

              Originally posted by Kirk McHugh (46057)
              I thought the judges said something about a missing rivet. Any differences here between AO Smith and St. Louis bodies?

              Kirk
              Kirk
              Heres a picture of my 67 coupe and I am sure that the seal has never been off the car. Maybe the Judge was thinking of the rivet on a coupe???
              Bill

              Bill Lacy
              1967 427/435 National Top Flight Bloomington Gold
              1998 Indy Pacecar

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              • Kirk M.
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                • June 30, 2006
                • 1036

                #8
                Re: 67 Front Door Seal Question

                Thanks. Could be I dreamed up the rivet idea too! Thanks. Now I know what I need to get.

                Kirk

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                • Kirk M.
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                  • June 30, 2006
                  • 1036

                  #9
                  Re: 67 Front Door Seal Question

                  Check out hinge pillar attachment kit (CC #342072). What is the black plastic "rivet" for and where does it go? Maybe that is what they meant!


                  Kirk

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                  • Scott S.
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                    • September 11, 2009
                    • 1961

                    #10
                    Re: 67 Front Door Seal Question

                    Originally posted by Kirk McHugh (46057)
                    Check out hinge pillar attachment kit (CC #342072). What is the black plastic "rivet" for and where does it go? Maybe that is what they meant!


                    Kirk
                    I think the black plastic "rivet" is a "pin", the originals I have are metal, not plastic:

                    windshield weatherstrip fastener - convertible post and hinge pillar kit
                    CC part number 342072


                    It does appear that all three screws I posted pictures of above are correct, if the CC picture is accurate, along with what they refer to as "1967 Corvette Hood Ledge Weatherstrip Pin" (CC #632002, individually)
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                    • Kirk M.
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                      • June 30, 2006
                      • 1036

                      #11
                      Re: 67 Front Door Seal Question

                      Could be metal, just guessed plastic by looks of it. I know its not a rivet, that's why I put quotes around it. Just wasn't sure what to call it.

                      Kirk

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                      • Scott S.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • September 11, 2009
                        • 1961

                        #12
                        Re: 67 Front Door Seal Question

                        I realize you're dealing with a convertible, and the parts I have are for a coupe, I'm trying to keep them straight while using the parts I have for I.D. purposes.

                        For the Convertible, these weather strip parts are located on UPC 1ASM, Sheet F16, Item 4: 3899383, 3899384 W/Strip Asm. LH & RH - 19467

                        The associated hardware:
                        Item 7: 94118711 Screw (x2)
                        Item 14: 4653672 Rivet - 19467 (drawing looks like the "PIN" as described by CC)
                        Item 15: 3825467 Screw - 19467 (x1)



                        For the Coupe, these weatherstrip parts are located on the same page:
                        Item 6: 3899381, 3899382 W/Strip Asm. LH & RH - 19437

                        The associated hardware:
                        Item 7: 94118711 Screw (x2)
                        Item 11: 3828470 Rivet - 19437 (appears to be an actual metal rivet)

                        The AIM shows only TWO screws for the coupe door seal, no "Item 15" screw as used on the Convertible.



                        The pictures below are comparisons between the examples that came off the car (with correct p/n on the back), and a pair of what look to be NOS examples dated October 7, 1976 (with correct p/n on the back and order tag).

                        I cannot explain the 3rd hole in the examples that came off the car, or why I have the third screw (Item 15) which is called out for a convertible in the AIM. William's 1967 coupe has the same 3rd hole with Item 15 screw (integral washer-head Philips screw) in Post #7 above.

                        I also cannot explain why the NOS parts dated 1976 with correct Coupe part numbers on the back do not have a third hole drilled, except that there is no call-out for a third screw in the AIM, yet William's car and the car I'm working on (both coupes) have the third hole in the door seal, with what appears to be the Item 15 washer-head screw.

                        Picture 1: Right door seal (coupe) front side
                        Picture 2: Right door seal (coupe) back side

                        Picture 3: Left door seal (coupe) front side
                        Picture 4: Left door seal (coupe) back side
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                        • Kirk M.
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                          • June 30, 2006
                          • 1036

                          #13
                          Re: 67 Front Door Seal Question

                          Now, I'm confused again. Just when I thought all I needed was three screws. All right, any original convertible 67's out there that can get us a picture? Thanks.


                          Kirk

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