Information Needed: 1966 427/390 Mosport Green Coupe....

[Bill C.]

I am in a position to pickup the following vehicle. I am pretty sure the guy is going to want about $17,000 for it. It is not running, non original motor, but the rest of the car is all original in parts....

Here are all the details:
Green on green coupe
Real BB car
rear and tranny match (M21)
original side pipe car
ps/pb
telescop
leather
head rest
power antenna
am/fm radio
real KH knock offs (originals to car)
all glass intact and date code correct
There is no docs on the car, but tank sticker might be there (never dropped or body removed)

Misc info:
car needs a complete front clip
complete repaint
LS6 (512 block) engine in the car
needs all bumpers
needs complete redo/re upholstering of interior
needs muffler/pipe assemblies (has covers)

alternator/carb etc.. non original



My intentions would be to create a really nice driver. I would reuse the LS6 engine and get a nice press mold/jigged Ecklers clip.

If I made a budget of $35K does anyone think it be worth the time and effort ?
Could I buy a car like this in "driver" resto quality for $52K ?

I am not concerned with this car being NCRS numbers car - it would cost a small fortune to locate all the parts. Even getting a dated 427 (blank pad or wrong #) is expensive as all hell.

Im just trying to wrestle with taking on the project or not.

Any insight or opinions are always welcome..

[Eric J.]

Re: Information Needed: 1966 427/390 Mosport Green Coupe....

Bill, No tank stickers in 66. Started in 67. $35K seems like enough if you put the sweat equity in it. I would put a lot in the body and paint. hard to fix that later. BTW this was my 600th post! just realized that.

[Chris E.]

Re: Information Needed: 1966 427/390 Mosport Green Coupe....

Bill, I think your budget of $52K for the whole shootin' match is fair, but you'll need to do a fair bit of the work yourself. Painting a car is a 5 figure activity pretty easily.

[Ronald L.]

Re: Information Needed: 1966 427/390 Mosport Green Coupe....

If you can get pics of the details, probably best as an email, we can tell the side pipe and 427 originality -front and interior help too.

My 2 cents, 25K into the body, jigged front end body work & paint, depends if you can paint your self, 10k for the correct 427 intake to oil pan ready to run, and about 10k to finish it and not only will it be a great driver, real close to original.

I do not expect you could find a NOM 66 427 - restored for any where near 52k, add on 'if' the wheel and option content could be proved and this has potential of a high $ car.

An essentially all original 66 427 in un restored condition, but excellent and very driveable as is - 65 -75 maybe more.

[Bill C.]

Re: Information Needed: 1966 427/390 Mosport Green Coupe....

thanks for the GREAT input!!!!


I can (and would) do everything to the car other than paint/body work.
However, my resto shop owner will let me work on the car as much as I want to at his shop. I can participate lacquer striping, etc.... as well as prep work. This helps to save $$$$ for his labor. I did this with my 72' restoration.

The frame does not have holes in the tranny cross member for ground straps. I was told this be a good sign of being a side exhasut car.
The rear does not look like it ever had a valence with cut-outs for pipes. It is solid and not messed with.

The battery tray is on the front passenger side.

The KH wheels are the real deal. I saw dates and stuff stamped on the rear side of one rim ( i will try to get pics).

It sounds like this could be a fun car to make a top notch driver of......



The car is at Mike's shop so I will get many detailed photos and put them in my Photobucket account for you all to look at and evaluate.


Do you all think that my changing the color of trim and exterior (for a driver type car) would make it less attractive to a buyer 8 years from now if I were to sell it?
I would disclose the changes upfront, I don't want to lie to anyone.

I like the exterior color, but not to crazy about green insides.. LOL

[Ronald L.]

Re: Information Needed: 1966 427/390 Mosport Green Coupe....

Bill,

If an original side pipe car, these go fast and make lots of noise so you won't be seeing the green interior after a 50 mile drive, but you will have one heck of a headache or be deaf.

Seriously, it would degrade the value down the road.

Original holds the best value.

Get pics of the body sides, rear frame, front clip, any of the side pipe parts and drive line - especially if still in the car.

[Joe R.]

Re: Information Needed: 1966 427/390 Mosport Green Coupe....

My intentions would be to create a really nice driver. I would reuse the LS6 engine and get a nice press mold/jigged Ecklers clip.

Bill,

This is a couple of steps past where you're at, but I would suggest using a Sermersheim front clip. Maybe Ecklers gets their fiberglas from them, but I don't think so. You can get a bulk discount from Sermersheim if you have other Corvette buddies order with you.

Good luck, I hope the car works out for you!

Joe

[Joe R.]

Re: Information Needed: 1966 427/390 Mosport Green Coupe....

Bill, No tank stickers in 66. Started in 67. $35K seems like enough if you put the sweat equity in it. I would put a lot in the body and paint. hard to fix that later. BTW this was my 600th post! just realized that.

Eric,

According to the Noland Adams book, some of the late 66 cars have the tank sticker.

Bill,

What is the car's birthday?

Joe

[Bill C.]

Re: Information Needed: 1966 427/390 Mosport Green Coupe....

Joe,

not sure - I will look at the trim tags today at the shop and post the data here after lunch sometime.



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as for the front clip - I will check them out and see what the costs are.. Thanks..

ALso---
if I should do this and decide to make a change to the interior color - does anyone think I can sell the nice original green parts?

The dash pads are perect, door panels (from what I remember) are okay.

I was going to call Al Knoch and see if they have a complete "redo" kit for the interior. Anything that is painted green I can re-dye black or paint black.

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I was thinking alot last night on the car - and there is no way I can get past a green inside. I understand it will hurt the value later, but black would certainly make the car "look" better to me.

[Joe R.]

Re: Information Needed: 1966 427/390 Mosport Green Coupe....

Bill,

I would suggest hanging on to the green carpet after you replace it. That way you can put it back to original before selling the car or if you just change your mind. Call me kooky, but I really liked the green carpet in a 67 I helped judge this summer. The exterior was Goodwood green. Really a stunning combination in my opinion. But, to each his own!

Joe

[Alan S.]

Re: Information Needed: 1966 427/390 Mosport Green Coupe....

Hi Bill,
It seems like most of your thoughts are concerned with NCRS type questions and future value at sale time.
Are you in a position to see this project through and gain enough enjoyment from doing it and pleasure from driving it to out weigh the few things the car WON'T be?
I'm thinking of Paul74 who appears to get more pleasure from his car than anyone I know and does exactly what he wants to it and drives it where ever he wants.
I think you could be at the start of a great car project. Many people say it will take more time, effort, and $$ than you ever estimate. That's why I mentioned getting some enjoyment from doing it... in my mind that helps balance things out.
Big Fun!
Regards,
Alan

[Jack C.]

Re: Information Needed: 1966 427/390 Mosport Green Coupe....

You can sell the original knock-offs and fund about half or the restoration.

[Dick W.]

Re: Information Needed: 1966 427/390 Mosport Green Coupe....

Mossport w/green interior makes a stunning combination.

I have heard that Sermershiem's has closed down, but cannot confirm that. EDIT I see that they are still in business but under another name

[Eric J.]

Re: Information Needed: 1966 427/390 Mosport Green Coupe....

Eric,

According to the Noland Adams book, some of the late 66 cars have the tank sticker.

Bill,

What is the car's birthday?

Joe

Oh, I stand corrected.

[Gary J.]

Re: Information Needed: 1966 427/390 Mosport Green Coupe....

Sermershiem's is still in business but is operating under a new name. I pick up at catolog this past weekend at the Corvette show in White Pine,TN The phone #'s may still be the same but I don't know that for a fact.