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  • Michael J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 27, 2009
    • 7122

    #16
    Re: HOw MANY REAL TRI POWER CARS ARE OUT THERE !!

    Originally posted by Jack Corso (21713)
    I have a real one.
    Me too.
    '67 L71 2010 Top Flight
    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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    • Domenic T.
      Expired
      • January 29, 2010
      • 2452

      #17
      Re: HOw MANY REAL TRI POWER CARS ARE OUT THERE !!

      Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
      DOM, I was not aware there are easily seen date codes on the Winters manifolds, however it would be easy to find a rerplacement one that would match your car's build date. And the numbers on the carbs are easily done to match the build date of the car, or you can easily find original ones that match. That will not help sort out fakes.
      Yes Michael,
      My date code is under the manifold and my carbs are dated too.
      If you are curious if your manifold is the right one and your car was really a 3 duce car you will have to pull it off.
      BUT what we don't know is sometimes better.

      DOM

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      • Terry M.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • September 30, 1980
        • 15599

        #18
        Re: HOw MANY REAL TRI POWER CARS ARE OUT THERE !!

        Originally posted by Manuel Mylonakis (52334)
        Some Tank Stickers like the 69's on have the last few numbers of the vin hand written on them !!

        Im sure there are lots of fake aged tank stickers around aswell which im sure most of you are aware of .

        Here in Australia when a car is referred to as a number matching car its expected to have its original drivetrain including motor in place but in the US its interpreted much differently
        Manuel you must have the one and only 1969 tank sheet with a VIN number on it. The VIN usually don't appear on the tank sheet until mid-1971 model year production.
        Terry

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        • Manuel M.
          Expired
          • October 14, 2010
          • 34

          #19
          Re: HOw MANY REAL TRI POWER CARS ARE OUT THERE !!

          Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
          Manuel you must have the one and only 1969 tank sheet with a VIN number on it. The VIN usually don't appear on the tank sheet until mid-1971 model year production.
          Terry i think you will find the below thread very interesting reading regarding tank stickers

          https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...53607&uid=9858

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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15599

            #20
            Re: HOw MANY REAL TRI POWER CARS ARE OUT THERE !!

            It may be that my reading comprehension is not so good, but I don't see where anyplace in that thread it says there are VIN numbers, even partial VIN numbers, on 1969 tank sheets.

            Please make my life easier and show me where that is in the thread.
            Terry

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            • Manuel M.
              Expired
              • October 14, 2010
              • 34

              #21
              Re: HOw MANY REAL TRI POWER CARS ARE OUT THERE !!

              Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
              It may be that my reading comprehension is not so good, but I don't see where anyplace in that thread it says there are VIN numbers, even partial VIN numbers, on 1969 tank sheets.

              Please make my life easier and show me where that is in the thread.
              Beginning in 1969 and thereafter, the sequence between hand the written number and VIN is ALMOST universally on target. 1968 is the last year that saw continuously evolving gaps between the written sequence number and the VIN.

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              • Brett H.
                Expired
                • January 1, 1996
                • 367

                #22
                Re: HOw MANY REAL TRI POWER CARS ARE OUT THERE !!

                I believe the job number is the hand written three digit number you may be seeing. Not the last three digits of the vin. May be wrong but.....

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                • Terry M.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • September 30, 1980
                  • 15599

                  #23
                  Re: HOw MANY REAL TRI POWER CARS ARE OUT THERE !!

                  Originally posted by Manuel Mylonakis (52334)
                  Beginning in 1969 and thereafter, the sequence between hand the written number and VIN is ALMOST universally on target. 1968 is the last year that saw continuously evolving gaps between the written sequence number and the VIN.
                  I have a lot of respect for Al Grenning's work, and he has seen a lot more build sheets than I have, but I am not convinced this is the case. I will stand by my statement that the inclusion of the VIN on the build sheets began in mid model year 1971.
                  Terry

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                  • Michael D.
                    Expired
                    • June 30, 1996
                    • 536

                    #24
                    Re: HOw MANY REAL TRI POWER CARS ARE OUT THERE !!

                    Originally posted by Manuel Mylonakis (52334)
                    ...Some Tank Stickers like the 69's on have the last few numbers of the vin hand written on them !!...
                    Careful. Job Numbers and VINs do not necessarily have to match.

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                    • Edward M.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • November 1, 1985
                      • 1916

                      #25
                      Re: HOw MANY REAL TRI POWER CARS ARE OUT THERE !!

                      I have the original tank sticker for a 72 coupe. The VIN (reverse image) is 23200). The number 200 is written in pencil at the top right of the tank sticker.

                      Has any sort of survey been done to see how far off the written number is from the last three digits of the VIN for the various year cars?

                      That would be interesting.

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                      • Michael D.
                        Expired
                        • June 30, 1996
                        • 536

                        #26
                        Re: HOw MANY REAL TRI POWER CARS ARE OUT THERE !!

                        Originally posted by Edward McComas (9316)
                        I have the original tank sticker for a 72 coupe. The VIN (reverse image) is 23200). The number 200 is written in pencil at the top right of the tank sticker.

                        Has any sort of survey been done to see how far off the written number is from the last three digits of the VIN for the various year cars?

                        That would be interesting.
                        For some early C3 model years, job number appears to be the last three digits of the VIN minus 500 (example: VIN ends with 721. 721 - 500 = 221 for the job number). For other years, job numbers appear to be the actual final three characters of the VIN.

                        I am not aware of any "official" job number/VIN survey correlation and I can't recall where I read the 'subtract 500' trick. I have run across both types (subtract 500 and actual) by asking owners on other forums.

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                        • Michael F.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • January 1, 1993
                          • 745

                          #27
                          Re: HOw MANY REAL TRI POWER CARS ARE OUT THERE !!

                          I too have one, never been seen in public since 85, under restoration/storage during my military career...maybe someday it will be done ...lol
                          Michael


                          70 Mulsanne Blue LT-1
                          03 Electron Blue Z06

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                          • Robert G.
                            Expired
                            • May 31, 1990
                            • 429

                            #28
                            Re: HOw MANY REAL TRI POWER CARS ARE OUT THERE !!

                            In my little database of '67's, 19% of the cars are listed as 427/435s whereas the production numbers say about 16% of them were. 10% were 400's and the production numbers show about 9%.
                            Last edited by Robert G.; October 19, 2010, 10:15 AM.

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                            • Michael J.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • January 27, 2009
                              • 7122

                              #29
                              Re: HOw MANY REAL TRI POWER CARS ARE OUT THERE !!

                              Originally posted by Robert Gallagher (17477)
                              In my little database of '67's, only 10% of the cars are listed as 427/435s whereas the production numbers say about 16% of them were.
                              True enough, I think it is a myth that a disproportionately large number of them are out there. I think many are for sale, for obvious reasons, and they were selectively preserved and restored for obvious reasons, so it just appears that way.
                              Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                              • Robert G.
                                Expired
                                • May 31, 1990
                                • 429

                                #30
                                Re: HOw MANY REAL TRI POWER CARS ARE OUT THERE !!

                                Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                                True enough, I think it is a myth that a disproportionately large number of them are out there. I think many are for sale, for obvious reasons, and they were selectively preserved and restored for obvious reasons, so it just appears that way.
                                I had to recalculate the numbers a little, but I do believe there aren't as many fakes out there as people think and that people may have kept big blocks rather than part them out, but it is a little odd that just based on cars I've entered in the database, the statistics would show that 100%(or more) of the 435's and 400's have survived.

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