63 horn placement

[John S.]

My 63 has the correct horns placed at 5 and 7 o'clock, 455 being on the left side, 456 on the right. At the western regional where I was just judged for the first time, they advised to 'swap' the locations side to side to be correct, and of course deducted points.

I've read the notes on this site on previous blogs and it is clear that my horns are correctly mounted.
I don't mean to bash, but the halfshafts are painted correctly and the hrons are mounted correctly, but deducts on both.

Guess I will live with those and agian hope this is recognized as corrrect down the road. I am a novice on all this, but got Top Flight, so a happy camper. Just found some of the deducts should not have been warranted?

[Harry S.]

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Were your horns like this, this is correct!

[John S.]

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Were your horns like this, this is correct!

Yes, that is how mine are mounted, but got deducts and told I should switch them from side to side to be correct, yet htis is the correct way from waht I have found. With 455 on the left side.

[Richard M.]

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Yes it seems to me that all odd numbered parts are always left side, even numbers always right side.......unless there was some deviation only on '63 horns.

Rich

[Harry S.]

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Rich, correct.

[Alan D.]

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John,
Had my car judged 3X and once sheets returned, always found some of those errors, too. Remember judges are very limited time wise and rarely know everything about every car (especially 63's)

It's up to us as owners to ask about the point loss and have proof with us showing the correct configuration. Simple to say & I still need to ask and show more, suspect even with that effort will forget a lot of stuff again on the fourth show.

Just have fun and take those things which are incorrect to work on. Those which are Right - get some proof to keep for the next time such as the old photo Harry posted.

[Rick A.]

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UNTIL the very fine TIM & JG is corrected to reflect the correct mounting we will CONTINUE to receive a deduct for having "correctly" mounted horns

[Peter L.]

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I think I said it before but we can build the bomb, we can send a man to the moon, and we can build a pretty good flush toilet; but we just can't get those guys in St. Louis to install the 63 Corvette horns per the NCRS Techincal Information Manual & Judging Guide. Good luck. Pete

[Michael G.]

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I've posted these before, but this is a low-mileage, untouched 63.

I've now seen about six original cars with this orientation. Both my cars are also mounted this way, but I'll probably move the blue car's horns temporarily to the ostensibly "correct" position before I get it judged in January.

[John S.]

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I've posted these before, but this is a low-mileage, untouched 63.

I've now seen about six original cars with this orientation. Both my cars are also mounted this way, but I'll probably move the blue car's horns temporarily to the ostensibly "correct" position before I get it judged in January.

But if you move them from side to side, the 455 and 456 locations are not correct, so be careful. Hard to have it both ways. That was what I was instructed to do to make it correct, but?

[Bill C.]

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Michael; your horns are correct the way they are. There is no point in moving them for judging. I have had deducts no matter which way I have had them.
I have had lenghtly discussions with judges and the T/L. Nothing helps. I give up!
Good Luck
Bill

[John H.]

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Michael; your horns are correct the way they are. There is no point in moving them for judging. I have had deducts no matter which way I have had them.
I have had lenghtly discussions with judges and the T/L. Nothing helps. I give up!
Good Luck
Bill

That's pathetic. The original installation is thoroughly-documented, patently obvious, and well-known to (almost) everyone who owns a '63.

[Peter L.]

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John - Very eloquent answer. It's probably good that mostly only NCRS members read the DB because others might really be puzzled that we cannot figure this out because we are all members of the same organization and are all working to preserve our Corvette as built originally or restore our Corvettes as originally built and agreeeing to disagree on this is not the answer. I trust there is a "correct" answer. Pete

[Michael G.]

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As a '63 owner, its seems there are a lot of misconceptions of what is "correct" on any given '63, as well as very little actual documentation of what changed during production and when. Every "expert" on 63's that I talk to, gives me a different story.

This may reflect my ignorance of NCRS politics, but why is the current edition of the JG "cast-in-stone" until it is revised in total? If it needs to be corrected on simple individual items, wouldn't it be very simple to send all judges an email every time an error in the JG is documented, then give every judge a copy of all the emails, as well as the current JG, before he starts his examination??????

[John D.]

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Well I have read all the posts on 63 horns over this past summer and finally removed the two car covers from my 63 known as the little white car (LWC) and guess how my horns are installed???.
The way they should be is the answer. Just like the nice pics above by Harry and Michael.
Yes I got a deduct but so what. Just because you get a deduction on a part doesn't mean it's incorrect as this is a learning experience for all and face it.
"The judges don't get paid to judge and in fact they have to pay big bucks themselves to do the job."

One might think that by this late date in life- (since 2011 is around the corner) we would all agree on something as simple and basic as to how 63 horns are mounted. Whew!!!!