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  • Michael J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 27, 2009
    • 7118

    Dullin' those jams!

    OK, I am experimenting on dulling my door jams for the upcoming regional next weekend. I have now tried Dove Flexible Hold, but not exactly like I would like to see them dulled. Has anyone tried the Extra Hold or Firm Hold? How about the Breck brands? I don't want it to be sticky and am not sure which formulas work best. Thanks for any ideas.
    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico
  • Clem Z.
    Expired
    • January 1, 2006
    • 9427

    #2
    Re: Dullin' those jams!

    Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
    OK, I am experimenting on dulling my door jams for the upcoming regional next weekend. I have now tried Dove Flexible Hold, but not exactly like I would like to see them dulled. Has anyone tried the Extra Hold or Firm Hold? How about the Breck brands? I don't want it to be sticky and am not sure which formulas work best. Thanks for any ideas.
    them there restorers from texas said they use fine steel wool when they were talking about restoring the last stink ray on the TV.

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    • Michael J.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • January 27, 2009
      • 7118

      #3
      Re: Dullin' those jams!

      Originally posted by Clem Zahrobsky (45134)
      them there restorers from texas said they use fine steel wool when they were talking about restoring the last stink ray on the TV.
      That's the first thing I tried, 0000 steel wool. But on my lacquer,it just made them shinier . The Dove dulls them some, just need more. Wish my wife used more than one kind
      Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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      • Clem Z.
        Expired
        • January 1, 2006
        • 9427

        #4
        Re: Dullin' those jams!

        Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
        That's the first thing I tried, 0000 steel wool. But on my lacquer,it just made them shinier . The Dove dulls them some, just need more. Wish my wife used more than one kind
        maybe coarser steel wool will work

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        • Joe R.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 31, 1976
          • 4550

          #5
          Re: Dullin' those jams!

          Leave them alone of you are using lacquer. I likes them shiney. You will loose points but I still likes them shiney.
          JR

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          • Joseph M.
            Expired
            • June 30, 1999
            • 334

            #6
            Re: Dullin' those jams!

            I've used Scotch Brite in the past. Went through NCRS judging with a 67 and received no deduction for the jams.

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            • Patrick H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • December 1, 1989
              • 11642

              #7
              Re: Dullin' those jams!

              You could probably use this:



              and I'll bet it's at Wal-Mart.
              Never tried it, but it will take automotive clear coat on a gun stock and make it about the right sheen you're looking for. I suspect it would do the same when the clear coat is applied to a car.
              There is a tiny bit of pumice in it that acts as the dulling agent.

              Patrick
              Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
              71 "deer modified" coupe
              72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
              2008 coupe
              Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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              • Clem Z.
                Expired
                • January 1, 2006
                • 9427

                #8
                Re: Dullin' those jams!

                Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                You could probably use this:



                and I'll bet it's at Wal-Mart.
                Never tried it, but it will take automotive clear coat on a gun stock and make it about the right sheen you're looking for. I suspect it would do the same when the clear coat is applied to a car.
                There is a tiny bit of pumice in it that acts as the dulling agent.

                Patrick
                he posted he has lacquer so i would think the jams would be dull if not buffed.

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                • Brian M.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • February 1, 1997
                  • 1838

                  #9
                  Re: Dullin' those jams!

                  I think original door jambs had more shine to them than judges want to see. JMHO

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                  • Michael J.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • January 27, 2009
                    • 7118

                    #10
                    Re: Dullin' those jams!

                    Thanks for the ideas. I am torn about doing anything permanent, the jams look fantastic and I would like to try some temporary things first, that wash off, before I permanently make them look nasty and tacky. I think many future buyers would like high gloss jams, especially accompanied by a Top Flight ribbon.
                    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                    • Page C.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • February 1, 1979
                      • 802

                      #11
                      Re: Dullin' those jams!

                      Michael,
                      The only time the exterior judges should be looking at door jams is when the finish of the car doesn't look like factory applied material. If you look at the NCRS paint judging flow chart, you will see that if they are looking at your door jams they have determined that the answer is NO and they are trying to determine if you will lose 50% or 100% deduction for paint. You see alot of 5 star bowtie cars door jams that have varying degrees of gloss.
                      Unbuffed lacquer still has gloss. I would leave them alone.
                      The door jams are judged by the interior judging team.
                      Regards,
                      Page Campbell

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                      • Tom A.
                        NCRS Body & Paint Advisor
                        • May 31, 1986
                        • 138

                        #12
                        Re: Dullin' those jams!

                        You need to remember that simply making the jambs dull is not what is required. As with all paint, the jambs must appear as an original finish. Original cars did not have abraided surfaces, flat finishes or uneven gloss. You may get by with shortcuts with some judges as many are not familiar with original finishes. At some point you will come up with a judge that knows paint and those methods won't fly. That's not to say you won't get by some but don't depend on those methods to work all of the time.

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