63 original dealer purchase paperwork/judging

[John S.]

Is there any 'credit' for having original purchase paperwork from selling dealer on a 63 for flight judging? Do any original records of this type have any bearing on judging?

[Tom H.]

Re: 63 original dealer purchase paperwork/judging

I believe only the items delivered with the car are judged. Records, etc. would not be judged.

[Tracy C.]

Re: 63 original dealer purchase paperwork/judging

Agree with Tom. However comma....

If the docs are indeed originals, I would definitely take some good quality pictures and have them for reference in the event a question comes up on the validity of any given option.

In cases where a dispute between the car and the JG arise, it can only help to have some proof in your pocket.

tc

[John S.]

Re: 63 original dealer purchase paperwork/judging

Does original window sticker carry any credibility other than showing the true options, etc? No points credit for flight judging?

[Stuart F.]

Re: 63 original dealer purchase paperwork/judging

I believe that, having all my original paper work, it primarily enhances the value and authenticity of my car - and makes for a good conversation piece. Beyond that, not so much.

Stu Fox

[Michael W.]

Re: 63 original dealer purchase paperwork/judging

Does original window sticker carry any credibility other than showing the true options, etc? No points credit for flight judging?

No credit in Flight Judging. The car is to be shown in post dealer prep condition, so the window sticker would not be present.

[Bruce G.]

Re: 63 original dealer purchase paperwork/judging

IMG_0340.jpgI mentioned to a Master judge during a Regional if he wanted to see a copy of my documented original bill of sale............stated he had no interest in seeing it, TWICE!!!!!!! Thought because of rarity, maybe so.........nope. Bruce

[Larry E.]

Re: 63 original dealer purchase paperwork/judging

FWIW>One exception to the above. If one has an extremely SUPER rare car. L88;M22;and etc.(NOT SURE OF THE COMPLETE LIST) NCRS WILL NOT JUDGE IT UNLESS THE OWNER CAN PROVE IT TO BE. This was in a Message from the Judging Chairman in the "Restorer" a while back.
Please correct me if I am wrong. Larry

[Mark F.]

Re: 63 original dealer purchase paperwork/judging

FWIW>One exception to the above. If one has an extremely SUPER rare car. L88;M22;and etc.(NOT SURE OF THE COMPLETE LIST) NCRS WILL NOT JUDGE IT UNLESS THE OWNER CAN PROVE IT TO BE. This was in a Message from the Judging Chairman in the "Restorer" a while back. Please correct me if I am wrong. Larry

Trim Plates with PRIME or SPEC; controversial items(?); duplicate GM VIN Plates; American Heritage cars; Challenge cars and more - are examples where documentation is required.

[Mark L.]

Re: 63 original dealer purchase paperwork/judging

GM documents can be displayed only if they have received a Document Validation Report. Any others that are displayed must have "Reproduction" noted on them. I believe this is covered in the JRM.

[Larry E.]

Re: 63 original dealer purchase paperwork/judging

GM documents can be displayed only if they have received a Document Validation Report. Any others that are displayed must have "Reproduction" noted on them. I believe this is covered in the JRM.

Mark: Thanks Much for the reply. What is the current price to get a "Document Validation Report"? Turn around time? Thanks>Larry

[Mark L.]

Re: 63 original dealer purchase paperwork/judging

Larry, The price is $110. Usually Tim, Dave and I try to turn around the request within a week. If there is not enough info on the doc a refund will be made.

[Harry S.]

Re: 63 original dealer purchase paperwork/judging

GM documents can be displayed only if they have received a Document Validation Report. Any others that are displayed must have "Reproduction" noted on them. I believe this is covered in the JRM.

Mark, are GM documents defined as; documents generated by GM such as window stickers, tank sheets, Regular Commercial and Truck sheets, etc. GM documents do not include Dealer generated paperwork, correct?

[Mark L.]

Re: 63 original dealer purchase paperwork/judging

Harry, yes, GM documents are those created by GM. Dealer docs are not GM docs nor are bank docs or anything else that one could consider.