67 Conv Original Front Windlace Question

[Kirk M.]

On an original 1967 convertible top how exactly is the front windlace attached to the frame? Are the staples hidden under one layer of vinyl and through the cardboard insert or are the staples just shot right through the vinyl? In other words, are the staples used to mound the front windlace visible?

Also, it seems to me that an original front windlace is tucked back a bit from the front edge to fill the gap properly. Does anyone else get that sense from the original top pics floating around?

Thanks

Kirk

[Gary B.]

Re: 67 Conv Original Front Windlace Question

I took a bunch of pictures at Charlotte of Bow Tie cars with original tops. I have attached a couple of them whowing the area you are asking about to this post.

[Kirk M.]

Re: 67 Conv Original Front Windlace Question

Thanks Gary, I also need a pic or description of the underside showing/telling me how the windlace is stapled in place.

Kirk

[Kirk M.]

Re: 67 Conv Original Front Windlace Question

I took a bunch of pictures at Charlotte of Bow Tie cars with original tops. I have attached a couple of them whowing the area you are asking about to this post.

Gary, taking a closer look at those pics, they look very "odd" to me. The windlace looks huge and just kinda hanging there rather than stapled tight against the header. Those pics look very different to me than some of the other circulating. Also, that windlace looks bigger than the "original" 3/8 that is discussed. I know you just took them, but I wanted to comment to see what others say. Thanks again.

Kirk

[Gary B.]

Re: 67 Conv Original Front Windlace Question

I did not take any of the area you mentioned since the top would have to have been opened to take pictures of the underside. Here are some more showing complete windlaces. These are original tops and original windlaces. The pictures are from two different cars. The size was correct especially when compared to an incorrect reproduction. The pictures previously sent are closeups and as such the size looks larger.

[Paul J.]

Re: 67 Conv Original Front Windlace Question

Kirk, I recall that this was discussed recently, and there was thread with several pictures showing the windlace installation and installed. I've looked for this twice in the archives but I can't find it.

Paul

[Wayne W.]

Re: 67 Conv Original Front Windlace Question

The staples go under the flap and the flap is tucked under the weatherstrip.

[Kirk M.]

Re: 67 Conv Original Front Windlace Question

Thanks Wayne. That is what I thought but I needed confirmation. Would you say the windlace is tucked back from the front edge a bit too?

Kirk

[Wayne W.]

Re: 67 Conv Original Front Windlace Question

Probably was intended to be even with the edge, but they seem to be tucked a little. Maybe a little shrinkage on originals.

[Kirk M.]

Re: 67 Conv Original Front Windlace Question

New question on the front windlace. I think I'm going to make my own, so if some one could tell me the following.

1. One the ends that are tucked under, are there any stitches holding the ends flaps over?

2. If there are stitches could you tell what the pattern looks like.

3. Is the end rolled up (towards the sky) or down under toward the windshield?

Thanks.

Kirk

[Wayne W.]

Re: 67 Conv Original Front Windlace Question

There are really no upturns. The material is pulled down and rounded off, then stitched forming a 90 degree corner.

[Kirk M.]

Re: 67 Conv Original Front Windlace Question

Wayne,

Can you describe it any more? It looks almost like an envelope flap turned over and then just one straight line of stitching across it? I'm not seeing just a full flap rolled over and stitched, or does it just not come across that way in the picture. Sorry to be a pest, but if I'm gonna reproduce it, I would like to try and get it right.


Kirk

[Kirk M.]

Re: 67 Conv Original Front Windlace Question

I am still also struck by the fact that the windlace roll is really placed up against the rubber seals rather than out front along the edge.

Kirk

[Wayne W.]

Re: 67 Conv Original Front Windlace Question

That picture is of a top in very bad condition. Don't pay any attention to the position of the wind lace other than the way it is installed and trimmed at the corner. All of the rubber bead has rotted away and the position is too close to the weatherstrip. You wanted to know what the stitching looked like. I supplied that picture. That is all I can do. Use the other pictures for the outer positioning.