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  • Loren L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 30, 1976
    • 4104

    William Edgar?

    Can anyone identify William Edgar for me? He is the author of an article on the 1960 Le Mans race in the September 2010 issue of Corvette Magazine.

    One of his revelations about the changes to the Cunningham cars was "...while the hardtops were bolted to the bodies to keep them from blowing off.".

    Really? What novel idea! I guess I'm asking if it's worth it to list the corrections because he won't correct it the next time either or .....
    Last edited by Loren L.; July 22, 2010, 07:24 PM.
  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    #2
    Re: William Edgar?

    As usual, I am udderly clueless
    Dick Whittington

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    • James G.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 1976
      • 1556

      #3
      Re: William Edgar?

      Will is a very well known 'car guy' from Carmel. Works close with the PETERSEN Museum and Monterey Historic and Vintage Motorsport Magazine. Nice guy. His number is 707-523-4772 and his website is www.edgar-motorsport.com. which tells about him and his phots and books.

      He goes by William , or Will.......not BILL !
      Over 80 Corvettes of fun ! Love Rochester Fuel Injection 57-65 cars. Love CORVETTE RACE CARS
      Co-Founder REGISTRY OF CORVETTE RACE CARS.COM

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      • Joseph T.
        Expired
        • April 30, 1976
        • 2074

        #4
        Re: William Edgar?

        Originally posted by James Gessner (943)
        Will is a very well known 'car guy' from Carmel. Works close with the PETERSEN Museum and Monterey Historic and Vintage Motorsport Magazine. Nice guy. His number is 707-523-4772 and his website is www.edgar-motorsport.com. which tells about him and his phots and books.

        He goes by William , or Will.......not BILL !
        Jim / Loren

        Will was at the Carrol Shelby event a few years back and was sitting next to us while we were having a drink at the hotel. He was with the owner of the Ferrari race car that was driven by Shelby at the Dec 1956 Nassau event ...and was next to my car in the starting position.

        Edgar's father was the famous Ferrari / Maserati sports car owner of the 50's and 60's. I communicated with the current owner of the Edgar / Shelby Ferrari a well known collector and he was very good to to talk to.

        If memory serves me correctly.

        Joe

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        • Loren L.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • April 30, 1976
          • 4104

          #5
          Re: William Edgar?

          Originally posted by Joseph Trybulec (930)
          Jim / Loren

          Will was at the Carrol Shelby event a few years back and was sitting next to us while we were having a drink at the hotel. He was with the owner of the Ferrari race car that was driven by Shelby at the Dec 1956 Nassau event ...and was next to my car in the starting position.

          Edgar's father was the famous Ferrari / Maserati sports car owner of the 50's and 60's. I communicated with the current owner of the Edgar / Shelby Ferrari a well known collector and he was very good to to talk to.

          If memory serves me correctly.

          Joe
          So that would make him the son of John Edgar, a prominent owner of ultra high level racers in the '50s and '60s.
          I guess I'm sorry that he doesn't know that all hardtops in that vintage were bolted to the body. I'm sorry that he doesn't know that the legend mechanic, Frank Burrell, was not "Corvette race program director"; that the Cunningham cars tried Konis during the April trials but ran GM shocks during the race; that all Corvettes had a front sway bar - the Cunningham cars had a SECOND front sway bar; that Halibrand wheels with the KOs and the adapters were heavier than steel wheels; that the aluminum heads head had been rejected in advance of the Bridgehampton 24 hrs; that Cunningham #1 did not "burn to the ground" (see post race photos); that Fitch's move up in the standings was based on the rain, not the night; and if you really don't think that 13 mph speed difference is BIG over a 24 hr period, your math teacher failed you.
          From 15 years of ownership of one of these type cars, the recurring battle is with the author whose "research" does NOT go as far as to go to the library and read a 1960 race report, and g__ only knows where they get some of the stuff that they report. And thus the process continues, repeating bad after bad.
          It's like the current irrational market for muscle car clones - is there any doubt that some of these are being purchased so they can be put "on ice" for ____ years before being presented as the real thing?
          I can hear this story's tag line now "Well, yah, it was just a Corvette frame that had burned to the ground, but then I checked the VIN and found out it was the #1 Cunningham car, so I bought a body....."

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          • Joseph T.
            Expired
            • April 30, 1976
            • 2074

            #6
            Re: William Edgar?

            Originally posted by Loren Lundberg (912)
            So that would make him the son of John Edgar, a prominent owner of ultra high level racers in the '50s and '60s.
            I guess I'm sorry that he doesn't know that all hardtops in that vintage were bolted to the body. I'm sorry that he doesn't know that the legend mechanic, Frank Burrell, was not "Corvette race program director"; that the Cunningham cars tried Konis during the April trials but ran GM shocks during the race; that all Corvettes had a front sway bar - the Cunningham cars had a SECOND front sway bar; that Halibrand wheels with the KOs and the adapters were heavier than steel wheels; that the aluminum heads head had been rejected in advance of the Bridgehampton 24 hrs; that Cunningham #1 did not "burn to the ground" (see post race photos); that Fitch's move up in the standings was based on the rain, not the night; and if you really don't think that 13 mph speed difference is BIG over a 24 hr period, your math teacher failed you.
            From 15 years of ownership of one of these type cars, the recurring battle is with the author whose "research" does NOT go as far as to go to the library and read a 1960 race report, and g__ only knows where they get some of the stuff that they report. And thus the process continues, repeating bad after bad.
            It's like the current irrational market for muscle car clones - is there any doubt that some of these are being purchased so they can be put "on ice" for ____ years before being presented as the real thing?
            I can hear this story's tag line now "Well, yah, it was just a Corvette frame that had burned to the ground, but then I checked the VIN and found out it was the #1 Cunningham car, so I bought a body....."

            Yes!

            As a side note I have a good picture of one of the 62 Sebring Corvettes and it has what appears to be a custom faring around the back bottom ledge of the hardtop fixed to the decklid. Maybe the Ernst/Preisler 62..can't remember.

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            • James G.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • May 31, 1976
              • 1556

              #7
              Re: William Edgar?

              Originally posted by Loren Lundberg (912)
              So that would make him the son of John Edgar, a prominent owner of ultra high level racers in the '50s and '60s.
              I guess I'm sorry that he doesn't know that all hardtops in that vintage were bolted to the body. I'm sorry that he doesn't know that the legend mechanic, Frank Burrell, was not "Corvette race program director"; that the Cunningham cars tried Konis during the April trials but ran GM shocks during the race; that all Corvettes had a front sway bar - the Cunningham cars had a SECOND front sway bar; that Halibrand wheels with the KOs and the adapters were heavier than steel wheels; that the aluminum heads head had been rejected in advance of the Bridgehampton 24 hrs; that Cunningham #1 did not "burn to the ground" (see post race photos); that Fitch's move up in the standings was based on the rain, not the night; and if you really don't think that 13 mph speed difference is BIG over a 24 hr period, your math teacher failed you.
              From 15 years of ownership of one of these type cars, the recurring battle is with the author whose "research" does NOT go as far as to go to the library and read a 1960 race report, and g__ only knows where they get some of the stuff that they report. And thus the process continues, repeating bad after bad.
              It's like the current irrational market for muscle car clones - is there any doubt that some of these are being purchased so they can be put "on ice" for ____ years before being presented as the real thing?
              I can hear this story's tag line now "Well, yah, it was just a Corvette frame that had burned to the ground, but then I checked the VIN and found out it was the #1 Cunningham car, so I bought a body....."
              Here is Will's email. Why don't you send him a note.
              edgar-motorsport@sbcglobal.net
              Over 80 Corvettes of fun ! Love Rochester Fuel Injection 57-65 cars. Love CORVETTE RACE CARS
              Co-Founder REGISTRY OF CORVETTE RACE CARS.COM

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              • Loren L.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • April 30, 1976
                • 4104

                #8
                Re: William Edgar?

                Done. As you know by your copy.

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                • Clem Z.
                  Expired
                  • January 1, 2006
                  • 9427

                  #9
                  Re: William Edgar?

                  Originally posted by Loren Lundberg (912)
                  Can anyone identify William Edgar for me? He is the author of an article on the 1960 Le Mans race in the September 2010 issue of Corvette Magazine.

                  One of his revelations about the changes to the Cunningham cars was "...while the hardtops were bolted to the bodies to keep them from blowing off.".

                  Really? What novel idea! I guess I'm asking if it's worth it to list the corrections because he won't correct it the next time either or .....
                  did not the front of the hard top use the same type of fastener that the vert top used. i remember opening my hardtop by loosing the front and flipping up the top while still attached at the rear.

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                  • Loren L.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 30, 1976
                    • 4104

                    #10
                    Re: William Edgar?

                    Yes it did Clem.

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                    • Clem Z.
                      Expired
                      • January 1, 2006
                      • 9427

                      #11
                      Re: William Edgar?

                      Originally posted by Loren Lundberg (912)
                      Yes it did Clem.
                      maybe he was refering to bolting down the front so it could not come loose during the race.

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