'65 water hose clip?

[Tony S.]

At the Heartland Regional, my '65 got hit for a point deduct for not having a washer hose clip on my driver's side hood catch. I was under the impression that the washer hose clip on the driver's side hood catch was not used until '66. Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks.
Tony

[Jack H.]

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At the Heartland Regional, my '65 got hit for a point deduct for not having a washer hose clip on my driver's side hood catch. I was under the impression that the washer hose clip on the driver's side hood catch was not used until '66. Can anyone confirm this?

Yep, clip should be there. Just checked my '65 AIM and curiously enough, it's missing UPC 1, Sheets E3 & E4 where this clip should be called out...

[John H.]

Re: '65 water hose clip?

At the Heartland Regional, my '65 got hit for a point deduct for not having a washer hose clip on my driver's side hood catch. I was under the impression that the washer hose clip on the driver's side hood catch was not used until '66. Can anyone confirm this?

Yep, clip should be there. Just checked my '65 AIM and curiously enough, it's missing UPC 1, Sheets E3 & E4 where this clip should be called out...

Tony & Jack -

That clip never appeared in the '65 A.I.M. - it was added as a running change in '66 production (A.I.M. change date of 1-13-66, per ECR #76063).

[Peter L.]

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John - I looked at my 1965 Corvette AIM and those pages are missing also. Hopefully, I didn't pay full price. Pete

[Tony S.]

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Thanks John. I thought that was the case.

Best,
Tony

[Wayne M.]

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John - I looked at my 1965 Corvette AIM and those pages are missing also. Hopefully, I didn't pay full price. Pete

Pete et al: Me too -- same pages missing; old T.Michaelis photocopy. But the strange part is that the page numbering is still consecutive, ie. UPC1 Sheet E2 is numbered E72 (at the top), and E5 is numbered E73. Maybe we can find some lawyer to do a class action .

[Jody B.]

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Tony,

I was also dinged for a point and thought that something must hold the hose in place, but I couldn't find anything in the AIM. I found this on the fleabay site and think it may be correct, it is old and used. Doc Rebuild had something very similar in his catalog.

Jody

[Tony S.]

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Hey Jody. I think the mechanical judges that we had were plugging into '66 guidelines and thought that it also applied to '65. I noticed on the Long Island website that LI shows this clip starting in Jan 66 as well. The Richard Bridges Duntov survivor that was at the 2008 Nationals did not have that clip either. I don't think that this clip is part of the '65 production.

Thanks for piping in Jody. Great hearing from you.
Tony

[Jim D.]

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I believe the judges are correct in that there should be a clip. Here's a pic. of my April 65 car. The washer system has never been touched.

[Jack H.]

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Very interesting, John! My AIM copy is from NCRS (Drafting Graphic annotated pages) and the referenced sheets are missing, but the page numbers that are on the sheets ARE consecutive. Sounds like an 'opps' with repect to the source copy of the AIM that was supplied to NCRS...

Back to the issue of the clip... It is NOT called out in the current edition of the JG book, but senior judges HAVE checked for the clip's presense for MANY years and deducted accordingly for its absence.

Sounds like this is an issue where there's a difference of opinion (what's called out in the AIM, including running changes through early '66 versus what judges 'think' is correct/original) that merits clarification. I too lost points WAY BACK when my 396 was being judged in the 90's for lack of the clip.

Once I installed a clip, no more problemas. And, this was true of the NCRS, NCCB and Chevy Vettefest circuits!

[Jody B.]

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Jim,

Thanks for posting a picture of the clip.

Jody

[Jim D.]

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Jim,

Thanks for posting a picture of the clip.

Jody

No problem. Let me know if you need anything else. My 65 is a 1 owner car that has never been messed with (yet ).

[Tony S.]

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Jim. Thanks for the photo.
Tony

[Clark K.]

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Sounds like this is an issue where there's a difference of opinion (what's called out in the AIM, including running changes through early '66 versus what judges 'think' is correct/original) that merits clarification. I too lost points WAY BACK when my 396 was being judged in the 90's for lack of the clip.

And we, the members of NCRS put up with this? A judge can deduct points EVEN IF the item is not described in the JG regardless of whether it is not denoted in the AIM? I realize that this happens all the time but every time I hear/see it, it just chaps my you know what!

I believe that it is high time that these "judges" in question ONLY go by the JG -OR- change the JG. -Clark

[Jim D.]

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A judge can deduct points EVEN IF the item is not described in the JG regardless of whether it is not denoted in the AIM?

While I tend to agree with what you're saying, in this case the judges are correct in deducting for the missing clip since they ARE supposed to be installed on a 65 whether stated in the guide or not.