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  • Paul S.
    Expired
    • April 6, 2010
    • 148

    Dallas/Forth Worth Area--Favorite Mechanics

    I'm looking for recommendations of DFW mechanics (preferably North Dallas as I'm in Carrollton) to do brake work on my 67. It's a small block, powerglide convertible.

    I just got the car, which has standard brakes, receipts indicating the calipers, pads, rotors and brake lines were replaced 5 years ago. The parts look new including zero visible rotor wear (no lip whatsoever on the rotors) with tons of pad left. But the thing doesn't stop worth a darn. I know the former owner only drove around town, but let me tell you that it is down right scary trying to haul the car to a stop from 50 mph. Pedal is firm and high, car brakes straight as an arrow, pedal doesn't go soft under pressure (which would suggest a failing master cylinder), but its stopping distance is way too long. Literally, if someone pulled out in front of me, there's no way to stop in time to avoid an accident.

    Example: at 30 mph, I stood on the brakes with both feet as hard as I could, and the tires didn't so much as chirp and it sure didn't stop in any hurry.

    There is some pad material showing on the rotor surfaces (likely from me), but it has no vibration under any braking conditions which would signify uneven pad deposits.

    It does have semi-metallic pads, and I've ordered a set of organic pads from Zip to see if different pads and fresh brake fluid improves stopping distances to a safe margin.

    I don't own a runout guage, but I could see with the car on jack stands that the rotors likely are out of specs for runout assuming the dust shields are supposed to be equi-distant from the rotor edge all the way around. I actually had the left rear rotor off (because the former owner or his mechanic stripped out the upper caliper mounting bolt hole, and the helicoil insert was sticking out touching the rotor--I managed to get a new helicoil insert in there that is now flush), and the rotor was not shimmed.

    If cleaning up the rotor surfaces, new pads and fresh fluid doesn't solve the problem, I'm ready to let a mechanic take over. I need to know who (besides Carr's--local Corvette resto shop--and I don't know if Carr's is great or not) to go to for help. I'd prefer a shop that knows midyears in part because I also want them to replace the left rear caliper mounting bracket. It's just nonsense to fuss with a helicoil insert when a new bracket is $40-$80 plus what, maybe an hour or two labor at most? I also may want to do a power brake conversion, while the brake system is apart.

    PM's appreciated, if you don't want to make public comments on shops.

    Thanks.
    Last edited by Paul S.; May 11, 2010, 10:39 AM.
  • Ken A.
    Very Frequent User
    • July 31, 1986
    • 929

    #2
    Re: Dallas/Forth Worth Area--Favorite Mechanics

    Try California Custom Garage 817-834-9554. They've been doing this stuff since the 50's

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    • John H.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • December 1, 1997
      • 16513

      #3
      Re: Dallas/Forth Worth Area--Favorite Mechanics

      Originally posted by Paul Seiler (51623)
      It does have semi-metallic pads, and I've ordered a set of organic pads from Zip to see if different pads and fresh brake fluid improves stopping distances to a safe margin.
      Paul -

      I went through the same drill with my manual-brakes '67; the previous owner had installed semi-metallic pads, and I didn't like the braking effort either. Replaced them with OEM organic pads, and the issue disappeared.

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      • Larry M.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • January 1, 1992
        • 2691

        #4
        Re: Dallas/Forth Worth Area--Favorite Mechanics

        Agree with John....get some OEM type or AC DELCO standard pads. If you don't like this, you probably should install power brake system.

        My 1967 also has standard brakes....but with OEM type pads. Braking is not as crisp or quick as with power brakes, but it works fine for me.

        Larry

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        • Paul S.
          Expired
          • April 6, 2010
          • 148

          #5
          Re: Dallas/Forth Worth Area--Favorite Mechanics

          John and Larry,

          I do hope the pad swap out does the trick. I just cannot imagine that I'm not putting enough "umpf" on the brake pedal.

          If anything, from many, many track days I'm accustomed to getting on the brakes hard and early from the onset.

          We were taught to get on the brakes as hard as possible from the start of initial braking, stopping short of locking up and then back off to get the most efficiency out of the brakes and shortest stop distance.

          At the track, we taught this to novices using a cone drill where you were supposed to accelerate briskly to 50 mph, continue and then brake as described with the goal of stopping just short of hitting a line of cones (the wall of shame). Nearly everyone stopped 20 feet short of the line or more when going hard on to threshold of lock up.

          That track/racing technique is in direct contrast to the more typical braking style most folks use, of easing into the brakes and then pushing progressively harder as you are approaching the spot where you intend to come to a halt.

          As I said, I'm hoping it's the pads.

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          • Gary R.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • April 1, 1989
            • 1798

            #6
            Re: Dallas/Forth Worth Area--Favorite Mechanics

            I also agree with John on the pads. I had a guys swap to plain old organic pads and the car stops on a dime. If however you need an expert, the one guy in your area you should know is Mike Dyer in Garland. I know Mike and,like myself, he does custom work to the highest level.

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            • Jean C.
              Expired
              • June 30, 2003
              • 688

              #7
              Re: Dallas/Forth Worth Area--Favorite Mechanics

              Paul,
              I suggest you contact Chuck or Dave Anderson at Automotive Performance Unlimited at 7341-B W. Vickery, Ft. Worth, TX. Phone no. is 817 763 8115. Chuck and Dave are Texas Chapter members.
              Best regards,

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              • Paul S.
                Expired
                • April 6, 2010
                • 148

                #8
                Re: Dallas/Forth Worth Area--Favorite Mechanics

                Originally posted by Gary Ramadei (14833)
                I also agree with John on the pads. I had a guys swap to plain old organic pads and the car stops on a dime. If however you need an expert, the one guy in your area you should know is Mike Dyer in Garland. I know Mike and,like myself, he does custom work to the highest level.
                Is Mike Dyer, the "Mike" of Classic Corvette Parts?

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                • Gary R.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • April 1, 1989
                  • 1798

                  #9
                  Re: Dallas/Forth Worth Area--Favorite Mechanics

                  Yes same guy and one of the best you'll find.

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                  • Tom A.
                    NCRS Body & Paint Advisor
                    • May 31, 1986
                    • 138

                    #10
                    Re: Dallas/Forth Worth Area--Favorite Mechanics

                    Chuck and Dave Anderson at Automotive Performance Unlimited are as good as they get. They are very meticulous, See Charlie Cadenheads post for contact info.

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                    • D S.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • March 1, 2005
                      • 1551

                      #11
                      Re: Dallas/Forth Worth Area--Favorite Mechanics

                      Originally posted by Charlie Cadenhead (40193)
                      Paul,
                      I suggest you contact Chuck or Dave Anderson at Automotive Performance Unlimited at 7341-B W. Vickery, Ft. Worth, TX. Phone no. is 817 763 8115. Chuck and Dave are Texas Chapter members.
                      Best regards,
                      I agree whole-heartedly with Charlie but you might want to check out Carr's Corvettes and Classics who are nearer to you in Plano, Texas. http://www.carrscorvettesandcustoms.com/

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