fire extinguisher help

[Keith B.]

a while back someone on here suggested to get a Halon fire extinguisher. So I was looking for one and could not find one. my cousin is a fire marshal so I asked him and he told me they are outlawed. but told me to get a Haloton fire extinguisher. are they just as good

[Richard M.]

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Keith, I bought 3 of these from this seller 3 years ago. Halon 1211 is still available. Halon Fire Extinguisher This is what he states:

HALON 1211 is a liquified gas, pressurized with nitrogen, which discharges as a vapor causing no cold or static shock and no impairment of the operator's vision. This "CLEAN" agent quickly penetrates difficult to see and hard to reach areas and leaves no residue. It is recommended for protection of delicate, sensitive and expensive computers, electrical equipment, tapes and film, automotive and aircraft engines, laboratory chemicals and equipment. Quality industrial grade hardware, "CLEAN" agent, light weight, good discharge range and excellent fire extinguishing ability make these the preferred extinguishers for the computer, electronic, telephone, banking and aircraft industries.


Rich

[Dan M.]

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Try sportys pilot shop, or Aircraft Spruce, we use them in our general aviation aircraft. Not sure if they are Halon but i think so.

[Phil D.]

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I really need to get an extinguisher to carry in each of my cars and had looked at the Halotron online, not really knowing the difference between it and Halon, but both are awfully expensive compared to a regular extinguisher. Trying to weigh the risks vs benefit here. If you've got say a small carburetor fire that you catch before it gets outta control, what's the worst that could be caused by the dry powder? Are we talking about "Aw geez, now I gotta pull the engine and go through a major ordeal" or do you just wash it out like you would if you were detailing a car that had simply been unloved for years?

[Gary S.]

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The Halon and, presumably, Halotron smother the fire by depriving it of oxygen. In the aviation industry, there is a reason that Halon, and later, Halotron are the weapon of choice for fires. We were given hands-on training using a large bathtub sized container filled with kerosene and then we had to fight the fire with Halon. Very quick, very easy and no clean up. As one who has used a dry chemical extinguisher on a self-induced carb fire during a tuneup, I can tell you that Halon will be the best money you spent on something you hope you never need. The other way to look at it is that guys are spending more on "correct" bolts and such than a good Halon extinguisher. I am sure the fire-fighting guys will chime in here, but I think I would choose old Halon over new Halotron. Iirc, the Halon was so good at smothering oxygen, thus the withdrawal from normal use. Its use in proximity to people was a problem.

[Terry M.]

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Many sleeps ago, when I worked for the utility "on the street," I attended the National Safety Congress when it was held in Chicago. At the time Halon was relatively new as a fire suppressant, and computers were big as a house.

One of the vendors demonstrated the safety and efficacy of Halon by having a "model" sit in a plastic box smoking a cigarette. The Halon put out the cigarette with no apparent harm to the "model." Of course this was a controlled demonstration in a very controlled environment.

I work every day in a room that has a sign at the entrance: "This room is protected by Halon 1211. At the sound of the alarm please exit." We know it is there to protect the computers and not the workers -- it is OK -- I know where the exits are.

I have a Halon fire extinguisher int he 1970 Corvette, and it goes in my 2008 when I go in it. I have a 25 pound CO2 extinguisher in the garage. Unfortunately it is too large to take with me on the road.

I know Ridge will add to this.

[Larry M.]

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I have a Halon fire extinguisher int he 1970 Corvette, and it goes in my 2008 when I go in it. I have a 25 pound CO2 extinguisher in the garage. Unfortunately it is too large to take with me on the road.

I'm like Terry: a small Halon for the car and a LARGE CO2 for the main garage. Dry chemical is very effective......but also very messy to cleanup after. I don't want to ever have to do it, if it can be avoided.

Larry

[Robert G.]

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Fortunately I've never had to use my Halon fire extinguisher, but it looks much too small to put out anything but a small fire. Halon 1211 is considered and ozone depleting chemical. According to this web site:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halon_1211

the manufacture of halon 1211 fire extinguishers was supposed to stop in October 2009. They say Halotron 1 is the replacement. I have no recommendations to make, other than to say I'd like a much larger extinguisher than I have now.

[Richard M.]

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I really need to get an extinguisher to carry in each of my cars and had looked at the Halotron online, not really knowing the difference between it and Halon, but both are awfully expensive compared to a regular extinguisher. Trying to weigh the risks vs benefit here. If you've got say a small carburetor fire that you catch before it gets outta control, what's the worst that could be caused by the dry powder? Are we talking about "Aw geez, now I gotta pull the engine and go through a major ordeal" or do you just wash it out like you would if you were detailing a car that had simply been unloved for years?

Phil,

Years ago my dual-four 59 backfired after the front carburetor leaked out the throttle shafts. Engine caught fire. Full story on CF Here in post#5. I had a small halon in the seat divider glovebox. When I got out the flames were a few feet in the air. The halon put out the fire instantly.

IMO it's not just the clean up issue, it's how much more effective the halon is over the c02. In my case, I was able to get back in the car and drive away. You'd be calling for a flatbed after a c02 bath. They make one heck of a mess. True story Here. Pic below.

[Paul L.]

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It is difficult if not impossible for the average person to buy Halon in Canada owing to environmental regulations. Thus I went with Halotron.

[Larry M.]

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Phil,

Years ago my dual-four 59 backfired after the front carburetor leaked out the throttle shafts. Engine caught fire. Full story on CF Here in post#5. I had a small halon in the seat divider glovebox. When I got out the flames were a few feet in the air. The halon put out the fire instantly.

IMO it's not just the clean up issue, it's how much more effective the halon is over the c02. In my case, I was able to get back in the car and drive away. You'd be calling for a flatbed after a c02 bath. They make one heck of a mess. True story Here. Pic below.

Rich:

CO2 should not make a mess....but dry chemical will. Are you saying the picture is from using CO2?? Looks like dry chemical.

Larry

[Richard M.]

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Rich:

CO2 should not make a mess....but dry chemical will. Are you saying the picture is from using CO2?? Looks like dry chemical.

Larry

I thought they were both the same. This must have been dry chemical then?

Rich

[Paul L.]

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I thought they were both the same. This must have been dry chemical then?

Rich

Dry chemical is sodium bicarbonate (baking soda).

[Terry M.]

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Dry chemical is sodium bicarbonate (baking soda).

Or a proprietary chemical named Purple K.

[Thomas N.]

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I got my Halon 1211 handheld from Pegasus Auto Racing. The 2.5 lb is 119.95. The link to it is as follows: http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro....asp?RecID=439