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  • Steve L.
    Very Frequent User
    • June 30, 2001
    • 763

    Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration

    Is there any restoration proceedures for this arm. There are no grease fittings at either ends.

    I see some hints of old grease under the boot at the frame end. How do you grease these ends?
    Steve L
    73 coupe since new
    Capital Corvette Club
    Ottawa, Canada
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • January 31, 1988
    • 43194

    #2
    Re: Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration

    Originally posted by Steve Lischynsky (36372)
    Is there any restoration proceedures for this arm. There are no grease fittings at either ends.

    I see some hints of old grease under the boot at the frame end. How do you grease these ends?
    Steve------



    There is no way to service an original-type idler arm. They can only be disassembled destructively. At the moment, my recollection is that there are no zerk fittings or, even, provisions for the installation of fittings on original arms. So, when one goes bad, it's dead.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Steve L.
      Very Frequent User
      • June 30, 2001
      • 763

      #3
      Re: Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration

      Thanks Joe,
      This is an original. There is no provisions for zerks. This one doesn't have any play.

      I'll just bead blast and put it back in.

      It looks like there is a small amount of black paint left. This makes me suspect that the entire linkage must have been painted black contrary to some opinions that the finish should be natural?
      Steve L
      73 coupe since new
      Capital Corvette Club
      Ottawa, Canada

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      • Alan D.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • December 31, 2004
        • 2028

        #4
        Re: Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration

        Steve, check out corvetteusa.com know they came out with one for the C2's that looks nice.

        And yes mine was (& is) black and was that way when I purchased car in Aug 67 (It's a 64 that was traced back to original owner) I did loose a point on it.

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        • John H.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • November 30, 1997
          • 16513

          #5
          Re: Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration

          Originally posted by Steve Lischynsky (36372)
          It looks like there is a small amount of black paint left. This makes me suspect that the entire linkage must have been painted black contrary to some opinions that the finish should be natural?
          Steve -

          The complete midyear steering linkage was painted with the sticky "chassis black" paint after assembly at Chevrolet-Buffalo.

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • January 31, 1988
            • 43194

            #6
            Re: Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration

            Originally posted by Steve Lischynsky (36372)
            Thanks Joe,
            This is an original. There is no provisions for zerks. This one doesn't have any play.

            I'll just bead blast and put it back in.

            It looks like there is a small amount of black paint left. This makes me suspect that the entire linkage must have been painted black contrary to some opinions that the finish should be natural?

            Steve------


            It might be ok and it might not. With these idler arms, they have to be REALLY bad before you'll notice any sort of problem by manual examination.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Terry M.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • September 30, 1980
              • 15575

              #7
              Re: Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration

              Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
              Steve -

              The complete midyear steering linkage was painted with the sticky "chassis black" paint after assembly at Chevrolet-Buffalo.
              I was told by that guy who used to live in Frankenmuth that C3 (at least 1968-1972. That was all I asked about) steering linkage got the same treatment.
              Terry

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              • John H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • November 30, 1997
                • 16513

                #8
                Re: Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration

                Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                I was told by that guy who used to live in Frankenmuth that C3 (at least 1968-1972. That was all I asked about) steering linkage got the same treatment.
                Terry -

                I would agree, but I limited my comment to midyears as I'm not familiar with that level of detail on C3's; I watched the process at Buffalo in 1967, which they said had been in place for many years.

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • January 31, 1988
                  • 43194

                  #9
                  Re: Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration

                  Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                  Terry -

                  I would agree, but I limited my comment to midyears as I'm not familiar with that level of detail on C3's; I watched the process at Buffalo in 1967, which they said had been in place for many years.

                  John and Terry------



                  Actually, I think the process was the same right through 1982.
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Terry M.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • September 30, 1980
                    • 15575

                    #10
                    Re: Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration

                    Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                    John and Terry------



                    Actually, I think the process was the same right through 1982.
                    And I too believed that coating continued through the C3 years, but like John I limited my comments to the years I was sure about.
                    Terry

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                    • Rich P.
                      Expired
                      • January 11, 2009
                      • 1361

                      #11
                      Re: Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration

                      It is possible to get some lube into these old arms...

                      when the rubber boot is removed from the vertical arm to lever, you will notice a nylon bushing in the joint. if you look closely the bushing has 4 slots that run down to the socket(I think its 4 it has been a few years since I have done one) I have lubed this in 2 ways. First I simply used some liquid lube in a squirt bottle and shot the lube into the 4 slots while rotating the arm, you notice a marked difference in the force to turn the arm. Second I have used wheel bearing grease mixed with lube to thin it out and packed the arm while rotating the lever.

                      Also with some sucess I have done the same on the ball stud end. I use a feeler gauge and put that between the nylon socket and stud and squirted lube in between while rotating the stud.

                      Rich

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                      • Steve L.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • June 30, 2001
                        • 763

                        #12
                        Re: Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration

                        Thanks Rich,
                        I was looking at this in more detail last night and noticed the plastic parts with the indents you mentioned.

                        I'll try out your technique this wkend
                        Steve L
                        73 coupe since new
                        Capital Corvette Club
                        Ottawa, Canada

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                        • Steve L.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • June 30, 2001
                          • 763

                          #13
                          Re: Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration

                          BTW, the ball end of this assy, has a large plastic washer on the tapered stud.

                          I was surprised to see it there.
                          Steve L
                          73 coupe since new
                          Capital Corvette Club
                          Ottawa, Canada

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                          • Joe L.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • January 31, 1988
                            • 43194

                            #14
                            Re: Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration

                            Originally posted by Steve Lischynsky (36372)
                            BTW, the ball end of this assy, has a large plastic washer on the tapered stud.

                            I was surprised to see it there.

                            Steve------


                            It's GM #3793578. There should also be a seal of GM #3744796. Both are discontinued, though.
                            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                            • Steve L.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • June 30, 2001
                              • 763

                              #15
                              Re: Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration

                              Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                              Steve------


                              It's GM #3793578. There should also be a seal of GM #3744796. Both are discontinued, though.

                              Joe,
                              GM #3744796, lists this as 5/8 id x 1 OD x 1/4 thk. I didn't see anything that looks like this when I took it apart. Is this located over or under the plastic washer? I haven't cleaned the relay rod yet, so maybe it's stuck on that. I'll check tonight.

                              Paragon doesn't mention this.
                              Dr Rebuild has a seal, their number 6200263, Item C page 149 but I can't tell from their picture, if it's a seal or the plastic washer.
                              Steve L
                              73 coupe since new
                              Capital Corvette Club
                              Ottawa, Canada

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