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  • Michael F.
    Very Frequent User
    • January 1, 1993
    • 745

    refresh my memory on how to check cam lift

    I want to check the lift on my cam for wear without removing anything but valve cover...where do I check for acturate measurement. I have dial indicator and holder so do I measure at rocker or remove rocker and check at pushrod or ????? thanks guys
    Michael


    70 Mulsanne Blue LT-1
    03 Electron Blue Z06
  • Timothy B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 30, 1983
    • 5183

    #2
    Re: refresh my memory on how to check cam lift

    Michael,

    I will probably be corrected saying this but you will get a more accurate check by measuring valve lift in the area under the rocker cover. The problem here is rocker ratio because it's not always 1.5 to 1 so it's not accurate to convert to the lobe lift in inches.

    The better area is on top of the tappet with the dial meter parallel to the axis of the tappet. You may be able to experment with the push rod end of the rocker and see what the reading is but the angle changes as the rocker lifts so measurment may not be as accurate as valve lift..

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    • Clem Z.
      Expired
      • January 1, 2006
      • 9427

      #3
      Re: refresh my memory on how to check cam lift

      do the lobe as the valve lift is all a calculation of the lobe lift times the rocker ratio. this works the best of you have the heads off. http://www.race-mart.com/items/produ...838-detail.htm
      Last edited by Clem Z.; April 30, 2010, 08:09 AM.

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      • Duke W.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • January 1, 1993
        • 15662

        #4
        Re: refresh my memory on how to check cam lift

        Remove the rocker arm and place the dial indicator tip against the pushrod. Get the indicator as close as you can to "inline" with the pushrod.

        Rotate the engine until the indicator reaches it's lowest point. This is the base circle. Zero the indicator and rotate the engine until max lobe lift is achieved.

        Lobe lift specs for all OE cams are in the appropriate year service manual.

        Duke

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        • Michael F.
          Very Frequent User
          • January 1, 1993
          • 745

          #5
          Re: refresh my memory on how to check cam lift

          thanks duke, will try that first, don't want to remove heads, thanks again for responses.
          Michael


          70 Mulsanne Blue LT-1
          03 Electron Blue Z06

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          • Larry T.
            Expired
            • May 15, 2007
            • 404

            #6
            Re: refresh my memory on how to check cam lift

            Originally posted by Michael Funk (22104)
            thanks duke, will try that first, don't want to remove heads, thanks again for responses.
            I am going through this now and concur with Duke that the dial indicator must be in an almost perfect line with the pushrod. With the setup I was using it was not possible and by the time the pushrod was all the way up the tip of the indicator had changed position on the pushrod. I can not be sure, but I think it gave me a false reading by as much as .025. I have a new lobe checking fixture on the way that has a greater range of adjustment. Good luck.

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            • Duke W.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • January 1, 1993
              • 15662

              #7
              Re: refresh my memory on how to check cam lift

              The error is a function of the cosine of the angle that the indicator is off from the pushrod axis - actually the lifter axis.

              If the angle is 5 degrees, the actual lift is the indicator reading divided by the cosine of 5 degrees, which is .9962, so the error is about 4 percent, which is .012" on a .3000" lobe.

              If you're careful setting up the indicator, you should be well within 5 degrees.

              Duke

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              • Larry T.
                Expired
                • May 15, 2007
                • 404

                #8
                Re: refresh my memory on how to check cam lift

                Originally posted by Duke Williams (22045)
                The error is a function of the cosine of the angle that the indicator is off from the pushrod axis - actually the lifter axis.

                If the angle is 5 degrees, the actual lift is the indicator reading divided by the cosine of 5 degrees, which is .9962, so the error is about 4 percent, which is .012" on a .3000" lobe.

                If you're careful setting up the indicator, you should be well within 5 degrees.

                Duke
                For me it was even worse because even with the most care I could use the tip of the dial indicator could not stay engaged in the oil passage recess of the pushrod. As the pushrod moved up the tip of the indicator repositioned it self to the uppermost tip of the pushrod, above the recess of the oil passage hole where it began.

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                • Timothy B.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • April 30, 1983
                  • 5183

                  #9
                  Re: refresh my memory on how to check cam lift

                  I know it's more accurate at the tappet but just under the rocker cover I would try valve lift and compare to specs.

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