Comments on this trim tag?

[Robert G.]

Does anyone care to comment on the trim tag for 194677S110118 on ebay, item http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-...item19bb87ee9a

I'm trying to learn, and this one doesn't seem typical of factory production and the body number doesn't match up with where I would expect it should be in my database, though with a little imagination, the number could be made to fit.
People who bought 427/435s in 1967 must have been the smartest people in the world because they almost always bought some of the rarest and undesirable options at the time, such as black paint, bolt-ons, side exhaust, and headrest seats. And in the words of the seller, Thanks and God Bless.

[Don H.]

Re: Comments on this trim tag?

the trim tag

and the VIN plate


My black book says this VIN should be a Feb 67 build, and the Trim tag says March build. Beyond that, I cannot say whether the tags look real or not.

[Michael J.]

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The tags look very shiny and new, you would have to closely inspect them for the stamping using the manual, but they don't look original. But any car with all these rare options is suspect without any documentation. Notice he doesn't show or mention the engine pad and tranny stamps.

[Kenneth B.]

Re: Comments on this trim tag?

the trim tag

and the VIN plate


My black book says this VIN should be a Feb 67 build, and the Trim tag says March build. Beyond that, I cannot say whether the tags look real or not.

G06 is FEB 6.
KEN

[Robert G.]

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The space between the date and the style is larger than most I have seen. The body build date of G06 for vin 10118 comes after:
10081 G07 5374
10083 G07 5375
10118 G06 5328

John Hinckley might be able to explain how such a thing could happen in the factory. Maybe the body got pulled aside for repair work, but I don't know when the VIN was assigned.

[Patrick T.]

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the trim tag


My black book says this VIN should be a Feb 67 build, and the Trim tag says March build. Beyond that, I cannot say whether the tags look real or not.

Notice the left rivet on the Trim Tag...there is a skipping mark caused by a tool that rotates very fast, like a drill. This usually happens when drilling out the rivets and the drill skips over to one side or the other. So my guess is that the Trim Tag had the rivets drilled out and then it was attached to the car shown...DEAD giveaway. PT

[Michael M.]

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The car is a 1967, where is the tank sticker?

[Michael J.]

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The car is a 1967, where is the tank sticker?

[John H.]

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The space between the date and the style is larger than most I have seen. The body build date of G06 for vin 10118 comes after:
10081 G07 5374
10083 G07 5375
10118 G06 5328

John Hinckley might be able to explain how such a thing could happen in the factory. Maybe the body got pulled aside for repair work, but I don't know when the VIN was assigned.

I have another tag image with G06, Body 5353 and VIN 9993.

Body sequence was frequently lost in the Paint Shop due to re-runs for repairs, seam pops, solvent pops, etc. The VIN was assigned after the Paint Shop, when the body was loaded on the Hard Trim Line, at which point the body was physically locked in sequence from there to the end of the Final Line.

[Robert G.]

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Interesting info John. So we can conclude the number isn't necessarily a problem. One thing is for certain though, 10082 is either a coupe or an AOS body if the production line was running normally.

09993 G06 5353
10081 G07 5374
10083 G07 5375
10118 G06 5328

[Joel F.]

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Interesting info John. So we can conclude the number isn't necessarily a problem. One thing is for certain though, 10082 is either a coupe or an AOS body if the production line was running normally.

09993 G06 5353
10081 G07 5374
10083 G07 5375
10118 G06 5328

Robert,

How did you conclude this?

[Robert G.]

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I concluded this with the caveat that the production line had to be running normally, and since
10081 G07 5374
10083 G07 5375
10081 and 10083 are both convertibles and their body numbers are 5374 and 5375, then 10082 can't be a convertible unless it is an AOS body. Furthermore, if it is an AOS body, then it can't have side exhaust or be a big block. Unless I am misunderstanding the whole process. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Joel F.]

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I am not trying to argue but rather gain a better understanding. Perhaps I misunderstood John Hinckley's reply. I read that reply and took it to mean that body numbers did not precisely correlate to VIN sequences because body's could need rework that would have reshuffled the sequences.

In that scenario, VIN 10082 could have received body 5373 or even an earlier number. On the same token, it could have received a later number if 5374 and 5375 had needed rework and got out of sequence.

[Robert G.]

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Joel, you are correct, if the body numbers got out of sequence for any reason, or an AOS body got dropped in at that point, then it could be any number (even another 5374 or 5375 typed accidentally on the trim tag), and it could have been a coupe or convertible. I'm going under the assumption that most of the time the production line went smoothly and the body and VINs went through in the normal/intended order and the trim tag typist was doing their job properly.

[Ronald L.]

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And from this flea merchant <billc27806 out of Lubbock Texas> you can get any tag stamped you want Just have to have a great imagination, or help.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260586256453