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  • Tom H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • December 1, 1993
    • 3440

    #16
    Re: Knock Off Help!

    Originally posted by Tom Stanton (41491)
    Now all the wheels I have are left's. Tom Stanton #41491
    Tom, The wheels are all the same. The adapters and spinners are lefts and rights.
    Tom Hendricks
    Proud Member NCRS #23758
    NCM Founding Member # 1143
    Corvette Department Manager and
    Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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    • Jean C.
      Expired
      • June 30, 2003
      • 688

      #17
      Re: Knock Off Help!

      Tom,
      One other point...be aware that the knock off spinner and adapter are marked left and right and mount on the car in a manner that they do not loosen when the car is in forward motion.
      Best regards,

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      • Tom H.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • December 1, 1993
        • 3440

        #18
        Re: Knock Off Help!

        again............... read this.

        http://www.licorvette.com/pdfcatalogfiles/KOwheel.PDF
        Tom Hendricks
        Proud Member NCRS #23758
        NCM Founding Member # 1143
        Corvette Department Manager and
        Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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        • John H.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • December 1, 1997
          • 16513

          #19
          Re: Knock Off Help!

          Tom -

          Note that there are ten holes in the wheel - five smaller holes for the round drive pins on the hub adapter, and five larger holes that are clearance holes for the lug nuts that attach the adapter to the hub.

          You should have special, extra-long lug nuts attaching the adapter to the hub - they prevent mis-indexing the wheel to the adapter. If you have ordinary lug nuts instead, there are ten ways to install the wheel, and five of them are wrong; if the wheel is installed incorrectly (with the drive pins in the large clearance holes and the ends of the lug studs in the small drive pin holes), the spinner will only grab 2 or 3 threads on the adapter, and the wheel WILL come off.

          Photo below shows the correct "long" special lug nuts attaching the adapter to the hub; all the usual vendors have them; if you don't have them, get them.

          Also, Google "M o t h e r Thumper Hammer", and get one of those too; the dinky lead hammer that came with the car is only for one-time roadside emergency use.
          Attached Files

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          • Gary C.
            Administrator
            • October 1, 1982
            • 17648

            #20
            Re: Knock Off Help!

            Tom, make sure you get the big holes on the wheel backside aligned over the lug nuts on the knock off adapter and the small holes over the pin stud. Gary....
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            • Michael M.
              Expired
              • June 30, 1997
              • 97

              #21
              Re: Knock Off Help!

              FYI
              Paragon 13233K KNOCK OFF WHEEL SPINNER REMOVAL TOOL KIT $256
              This tool will save the abuse to your spinner and finish.
              Quality tool.

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              • Wayne M.
                Expired
                • March 1, 1980
                • 6414

                #22
                Re: Knock Off Help!

                Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                ....Google "M o t h e r Thumper Hammer", and get one of those too; the dinky lead hammer that came with the car is only for one-time roadside emergency use.
                Here's a pic of the "M u t h a Thumper" and what happens when you use the GM hammer.
                Attached Files

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                • Wayne M.
                  Expired
                  • March 1, 1980
                  • 6414

                  #23
                  Re: Knock Off Help!

                  Originally posted by Tom Stanton (41491)
                  ... Now all the wheels I have are left's. On the back side of the wheel it say's Western Wheel Corp. K-H, then 15X6 and I think that is it. The spinner say's L H, USA, AU4. So I am geussing this is a Kelsy Hayes re-pop!

                  Tom -- do yours have the "306065" cast, as well ? I have a set of four of these, and IMO, they are pretty good, compared to originals (fins, rim lips, etc).

                  How the heck did you end up with FOUR left sides .
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                  • Don H.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • December 1, 1981
                    • 1487

                    #24
                    Re: Knock Off Help!

                    Long Island sells a suction cup to remove the cap. It sells for about $10 and you never have to "pry" again. Well worth it! Don H.

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                    • Tom S.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • March 1, 2004
                      • 1087

                      #25
                      Re: Knock Off Help!

                      Yes I have the 306065 wheels. They were on the car when I bought it. They are in very good condition. Why all 4 are left's I don't know? They all knock off counter-clockwise! Tom

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                      • Clark K.
                        Expired
                        • January 12, 2009
                        • 536

                        #26
                        Re: Knock Off Help!

                        Originally posted by Tom Stanton (41491)
                        Yes I have the 306065 wheels. They were on the car when I bought it. They are in very good condition. Why all 4 are left's I don't know? They all knock off counter-clockwise! Tom
                        Tom, there are NO left or right side wheels. There ARE left and right side spinners. -Clark

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                        • Jack H.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 1, 1990
                          • 9906

                          #27
                          Re: Knock Off Help!

                          Tom, there are NO left or right side wheels. There ARE left and right side spinners.

                          Close...

                          Spinners AND the adaptors they mount to come in RH and LH versions. Just changing a spinner without also changing the adaptor doesn't get it...

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                          • Tom S.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • March 1, 2004
                            • 1087

                            #28
                            Re: Knock Off Help!

                            Clark
                            I realize the wheels are not right and left, it is the adapter's and spinners I have that are all for the left side! Don't ask me why, I have no idea! Tom

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                            • Jack H.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • April 1, 1990
                              • 9906

                              #29
                              Re: Knock Off Help!

                              Probably because a prior owner/prior mechanic really SCREWED UP! Forget the 'why' issue and go source the proper parts...

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                              • Andrew S.
                                Frequent User
                                • July 29, 2009
                                • 56

                                #30
                                Re: Knock Off Help!

                                The "screw up" is a safety issue, correct?

                                With all 4 spinners' OFF direction CCW, there's a danger that Tom's driver's side spinners could come loose from wheel rotation. The danger is obviously less with the addition of the safety pin, but we'd sure hate to test that idea.

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