C4 & Up Electronic Parts

[Clem Z.]

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down the road this will be the same problem with the new ZR1 no parts available as GM is in no financial position to keep stocking parts after the federal mandated rules about keeping parts available. my personal idea is after 2016 and the 35 MPG mandate you will not see any more of cars like corvettes because the cost to design and build a special car will be too great for GM because they will have to spend all their development money just to keep up with the goverment mandates for standard cars.

[Joe L.]

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down the road this will be the same problem with the new ZR1 no parts available as GM is in no financial position to keep stocking parts after the federal mandated rules about keeping parts available. my personal idea is after 2016 and the 35 MPG mandate you will not see any more of cars like corvettes because the cost to design and build a special car will be too great for GM because they will have to spend all their development money just to keep up with the goverment mandates for standard cars.

clem------

Yes, there will undoubtedly be a big drop-off, at some point, in the availability of the C6 LS9 (ZR1) parts. However, because of the commonality of the basic engine design with other LS series engines, I think it will be possible to keep them running with aftermarket parts or GM parts, albeit perhaps not the exact, correct parts. The problem with the LT5 is that virtually every part in the engine is totally unique to that engine and never has been and never will be available in the aftermarket.

As far as the future goes, I really think that the performance engine of the future is going to be V-6 based. You're seeing the first "peek" at the future with the current Camaro V-6 and the new Mustang V-6. I think that, in a way, GM and Ford are using these cars to "prepare" folks for the future and "ease them into it". Note that, externally, there is not a lot of difference between the V-6 and V-8 powered models (e.g. both have dual exhaust and similar external trim). In the past, V-6 Camaros and Mustangs were usually very easy to differentiate from their V-8 brethren (except late in the life cycle of each model series as they did whatever it took to sell dated designs).

I think that most of the other cars will be powered by DOHC I-4 engines with direct injection and/or turbocharging. Look for very small displacements with most under 2 liters.

I think that trucks are going to go with new diesel engines that get around most of the problems with previous diesels. I don't see anyway in hell that they're going to meet the CAFE standards for trucks with V-8 gasoline engines. For GM, I think the gasoline engine trucks are going to be direct injection and/or turbocharged versions of the truck DOHC I-4, I-5, and I-6. I'll bet that I-4 and I-5 will predominate.

By the way, the Cadillac Northstar engine goes out-of-production very soon and there is NO replacement for it waiting-in-the-wings. When the Northstar is gone, all Cadillacs except Escalade will be V-6 powered. Lincoln is also already all V-6 except for the Navigator and Town Car, the latter of which will be gone shortly.

[Pat M.]

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What C4 parts, electronic and otherwise, are still available that might prove scarce in the future? Anyone got a crystal ball? Seriously, I'd love to stockpile some if I knew what to gather.

[Clem Z.]

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passenger cars need to be lighter and more aero as my 2008 corvette gets the same MPG around town and on the road as mrs clems 3800 V-6 impala. they both do 20/22 every day and 26/28 on trips. if i drive the speed limit 65 MPH i can get close to 30 MPG out of both on trips buy you have to run with traffic 75-85 MPH or you get run over out the on the interstates.

[Ken A.]

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I have been hearing that it is getting hard to find electrical parts/sensors ETC. for C4 & up Corvettes. Without these parts the cars will not run. If no one makes these will they just be junk cars. The old Carb.plugs & fuel pump Corvettes will always go but with the electronic boards & sensors that none of us can make will these Corvettes be up on blocks?
KEN

What specific parts do you need??. I'll think you, and many others, will find that there are all the parts you want are availiable-either remanned, used, new service parts or NOS. The problem with the C-4's is the cost of repair can easily out weigh the value of the car, for now, as they are at the bottom of their value/price cycle.

[Clem Z.]

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the BIG problem with these cars is unless you have a GM TECH II or similar analyser you will have no way of diagnosing the exact problems with the car.

[Paul L.]

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I was thinking of buying a 1992 green convertible. Excellent condition with low miles. Beautiful car. No more! I'll stick with my old 1974. She is rather pretty and aside from the TCS I understand her.

I had no idea there was a problem with parts for C4s. Thanks for bringing this matter to our attention.

[Clem Z.]

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remember GM slogan,"planned obsolescence"

[Ken A.]

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I was thinking of buying a 1992 green convertible. Excellent condition with low miles. Beautiful car. No more! I'll stick with my old 1974. She is rather pretty and aside from the TCS I understand her.

I had no idea there was a problem with parts for C4s. Thanks for bringing this matter to our attention.

I'll say it again, there is NO problem getting parts for any C-4, there may be a problem with costs.

[Joe L.]

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I'll say it again, there is NO problem getting parts for any C-4, there may be a problem with costs.

Ken-----


As long as USED parts are included in the mix, you're right. The problem is that many of the parts that someone might have to turn to used sources to obtain are life-limited parts. So, when you buy a used one, you never know how much life is left in it.

[Ken A.]

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Ken-----


As long as USED parts are included in the mix, you're right. The problem is that many of the parts that someone might have to turn to used sources to obtain are life-limited parts. So, when you buy a used one, you never know how much life is left in it.

Can you be more specific? I'm not refering to used spark plugs & the like.

[Clem Z.]

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there is a electronic item that is on a C-4 that you see people looking for it on the internet all the time. i never paid attension to what it is because i neither need one or have one.

[Ken A.]

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there is a electronic item that is on a C-4 that you see people looking for it on the internet all the time. i never paid attension to what it is because i neither need one or have one.

You mean like a fuel sender for a 36 gallon tank?

[Clem Z.]

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You mean like a fuel sender for a 36 gallon tank?

on a mid year all you need is a wooden dowel to check the fuel level.

[Dick W.]

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You mean like a fuel sender for a 36 gallon tank?

Thankfully if you have an original, you can rebuild it.