Corvette with flames

[Rob M.]

Woudl this trim paint allow me to finally spray some flames on my car???

See http://www.c3registry.org/index.php?...te&car_id=9996 for the '72 car with this TRIM plate!

[Erik S.]

Re: Corvette with flames

well, at least the owner did allow him (or her) to paint the trim tag, which is special enough for me

[Chuck S.]

Re: Corvette with flames

Woudl this trim paint allow me to finally spray some flames on my car???

See http://www.c3registry.org/index.php?...te&car_id=9996 for the '72 car with this TRIM plate!

The "bright glossy paint" is not the special paint.

The "special paint" stamped on the trim plate identifies as the car as having left the factory in primer. The fact that the trim plate is painted over confirms the car was painted in a commercial body shop after delivery. The history of the car may all be true, and the paint appears to at least be acrylic lacquer.

The "special paint" trim plate would have no bearing on whether you could paint flames on the car...without a doubt you could. It would fool "some of the people, some of the time"...but, it would never fool NCRS members.

[Terry M.]

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The "bright glossy paint" is not the special paint.

The "special paint" stamped on the trim plate identifies as the car as having left the factory in primer. The fact that the trim plate is painted over confirms the car was painted in a commercial body shop after delivery. The history of the car may all be true, and the paint appears to at least be acrylic lacquer.

The "special paint" trim plate would have no bearing on whether you could paint flames on the car...without a doubt you could. It would fool "some of the people, some of the time"...but, it would never fool NCRS members.

I know of at least two 1972s with SPL or SPECIAL trim tags that left St Louis glossy Black. Take a look in the pocket Spec Guide for 1972 production numbers and you will see the number of coupes and convertibles with SPECIAL paint. The vast majority left the factory in primer, but some didn't. One has to examine the evidence (what may be left of it) to determine the factory finish of these cars. The usual detective work needs to be done.

Based on the paint on the trim tag the Silver or Gray this car5 exhibits is not the original factory finish, but more investigation needs to be done to determine how the factory finished the car.

[Steven B.]

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I know of at least two 1972s with SPL or SPECIAL trim tags that left St Louis glossy Black. Take a look in the pocket Spec Guide for 1972 production numbers and you will see the number of coupes and convertibles with SPECIAL paint. The vast majority left the factory in primer, but some didn't. One has to examine the evidence (what may be left of it) to determine the factory finish of these cars. The usual detective work needs to be done.

Based on the paint on the trim tag the Silver or Gray this car5 exhibits is not the original factory finish, but more investigation needs to be done to determine how the factory finished the car.

Terry, is it known if any colors other than black left the factory with the Special trim tags?

Thanks!

Steve

[Chuck S.]

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...The vast majority left the factory in primer, but some didn't. One has to examine the evidence (what may be left of it) to determine the factory finish of these cars. The usual detective work needs to be done...

I suppose it could have been black. What do 72 exterior judges look for when they see "Special Paint"...primer or black? Either?

Maybe we can get someone to take some "scrapings" while the guy isn't looking...Or...see if he'll let us pull up the carpet. No, I doubt he will be cooperate with our quest for the truth, since he's trying to sell that "bright, glossy" paint as factory.

[Terry M.]

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Not known by me. But I can only keep track of the ones I have reports of, or have seen myself. I actually prefer to see these cars myself, since they engender all kinds of misleading stories.

There is a very solid report of the production of six (if I remember the number right) Black 1972s by orders from the top. We will hear more of that story over the next couple of years. I know where one of those is, but the other five??? Stay tuned.

BTW: As I remember one of the factory Black ones I have seen had about a two-foot wide Warbonnet Yellow stripe from nose to tail and across the removable top panels. I was unable to determine if that stripe was done at St Louis or later, but the Black was definitely St Louis IMO. That car was originally delivered to Zone 0 though. So who know2s what those guys did?

[Terry M.]

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Pull the door sils and turn back the carpet. Look under the weather strips. Pull the door locks. It is basically the same investigative process the C1 guys do all the time, except we don't get to use quarters.

[Terry M.]

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Woudl this trim paint allow me to finally spray some flames on my car???

I know someone (who will remain nameless) who has threatened to get a Corvette with a SPL or SPECIAL trim tag and do exactly what you suggest. He kind of likes to stir the pot.

[Chuck S.]

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Pull the door sils and turn back the carpet. Look under the weather strips. Pull the door locks. It is basically the same investigative process the C1 guys do all the time, except we don't get to use quarters.

Since the movie wasn't released until 2009, the car had a "history" long before the one given in the C3Registry. It's earlier history is probably of greater interest to us.

I think I'll add The Box to the Netflix que anyway. I remember the advertising clips...the movie has a kind of black majic, voodoo feel to it, like that old short story we read in high school, The Monkey's Paw.

In any event, the "Special Paint" wasn't ordered for the movie, and somtime during it's "history", it has received what appears to be an acrylic lacquer redo. I wonder if that silver is 1972 contemporary long-life lacquer over primer, or post-reg low VOC lacquer someone had to scrounge up because they didn't like the black for the movie?

I'm pretty sure we'll never know for certain...unless Rob buys the car to get the trim plate.

[Calvin C.]

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I know of at least two 1972s with SPL or SPECIAL trim tags that left St Louis glossy Black. Take a look in the pocket Spec Guide for 1972 production numbers and you will see the number of coupes and convertibles with SPECIAL paint. The vast majority left the factory in primer, but some didn't. One has to examine the evidence (what may be left of it) to determine the factory finish of these cars. The usual detective work needs to be done.

Based on the paint on the trim tag the Silver or Gray this car5 exhibits is not the original factory finish, but more investigation needs to be done to determine how the factory finished the car.

I have a 72 that had it's Ontario Orange painted over very early in life, so I check out 72 black cars often. I noticed one (72) at Pomona a couple years ago that was black. The owner said it was the original color and the trim tag indicated black, 400 code if I remember. I do not know the guy's name but I have seen him around since then.

Would a special order black car have a black trim tag code in 72?

cal

[Terry M.]

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The ones I referred to above were/are SPEC, or SPECIAL -- I don't have my files here at work, but they were definitely NOT 400. I have never seen a 1972 with 400 for a paint code -- but then I am far from having seen ALL 1972s.

BTW: There is (at least the last time I talked to him a couple of years ago) a triple Black (paint, convertible top, & interior), factory paint 1971 LS5 with C60, in the hands of the original owner. He has ALL the documentation. The dealer charged him $40 for the Black paint order. A stunning car. I have been trying to talk him into Bowtie, but he doesn't belong to NCRS and has no interest in joining us.

[Calvin C.]

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The ones I referred to above were/are SPEC, or SPECIAL -- I don't have my files here at work, but they were definitely NOT 400. I have never seen a 1972 with 400 for a paint code -- but then I am far from having seen ALL 1972s.

BTW: There is (at least the last time I talked to him a couple of years ago) a triple Black (paint, convertible top, & interior), factory paint 1971 LS5 with C60, in the hands of the original owner. He has ALL the documentation. The dealer charged him $40 for the Black paint order. A stunning car. I have been trying to talk him into Bowtie, but he doesn't belong to NCRS and has no interest in joining us.

My mistake 400 was the interior code, the car had a 900 paint code. Ya always hear that you could have ordered a car any way you want (almost) but how did they code it? Are there any black 70 - 74 cars with a 900 code?

thanks

cal

[Tim G.]

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A New York dealer ordered 50 black cars in 1973, one was brought to the Waco Regional a few years ago with SPL on the trim tag. The paperwork had "black paint" written on it and the judges felt it may have arrived in primer but finally agreed that it was black and should be judged that way. This was a very nice 10,000 mile, original car. More black '73's from that dealer have surfaced.

[Terry M.]

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I haven't seen any 900 either, but then I have only seen around ten black 1972s and about a half dozen had SPEC, SPL, or SPECIAL for PAINT on the trim tag. This area is a sort of interesting side-light to 1970-1972 production.

Note Tim's post below.