Picture or Diagram of the '65 L-78 Battery Shield Setup

[Jonathan S.]

Okay, I am again having trouble visualizing the language of the Judging Manual. My '65 Judging Manual provides that along with the battery hold-down there should be a battery shield on the engine side of the battery. However, I cannot locate any diagrams, pictures or reproduction parts showing this setup.

Can anyone post pictures of how this battery hold-down and shield for a '65 L-78 setup looks

[William C.]

Re: Picture or Diagram of the '65 L-78 Battery Shield Setup

Go to Long Island Corvette part # 27-01A then click on view detail and you should have your answer.

[Jonathan S.]

Re: Picture or Diagram of the '65 L-78 Battery Shield Setup

Thanks for the direction, but this highlights the problem I am having. If you look at Long Island Corvette catalog picture for #27-21B, which is a holddown for a '65 L-78 396/425 it does not look like #27-01A which has a shield attached.

The Judging Manual expressly provides for the '65 396/425 a hold-down pictured in #27-21B and then calls for a shield. I cannot find an accurate representation of this anywhere. I even looked in the Assmbly Manual (Although I may have missed it though)

[John H.]

Re: Picture or Diagram of the '65 L-78 Battery Shield Setup

Did the L-78 really have a battery heat shield? If you look in the L-78 section in the Assembly Manual, in the Non-Illustrated Parts sheet, it says the battery tray and hold-down assembles the same as the C60 battery installation. If you go to the C60 section, it shows the tray and hold-down hardware, but no heat shield. The LICS catalog doesn't show a heat shield for '65 396 or C60 either.

[Jonathan S.]

Re: Picture or Diagram of the '65 L-78 Battery Shield Setup

Well,

I guess there is a dearth of knowledge on this one!

[Mark L.]

Re: Picture or Diagram of the '65 L-78 Battery Shield Setup

Well,

I guess there is a dearth of knowledge on this one!

I've never seen a shield on any L78 battery, and during the resto of ours I looked at several.

[Wayne M.]

Re: Picture or Diagram of the '65 L-78 Battery Shield Setup

.... I guess there is a dearth of knowledge on this one!

Lot's of knowledge (ie NO shield on C60 and L78 cars, as John H. said) but the '65 TIM&JG paragraph "Heat Shield" (top of page 123 in the 5th ed.) should have read [present] "on all non-air conditioned AND non-L78 cars" ..... "Assign air-conditioned AND L78 cars full credit" [for lack of shield].

[Jack H.]

Re: Picture or Diagram of the '65 L-78 Battery Shield Setup

Yep, that's correct. No heat shield on L78 or C60 equipped '65 cars that had the battery relocated to the LH frame rail to off-set the added weight distribution in the engine compartment from the AC compressor (SB) or the extra weight of the BB engine that was mounted off centerline to the frame...

These cars have just the battery tray, the upper hold down bracket and the two hold down posts with their nuts.

[Gary C.]

Re: Picture or Diagram of the '65 L-78 Battery Shield Setup

Gents,
I have just lost 2 points in the Chapter judging in Perth on my L78 due to no heat shield.

How do we prove there should be no heat shield and when will the JM be updated?

Cheers,
Gary

[Jack H.]

Re: Picture or Diagram of the '65 L-78 Battery Shield Setup

Get better judges, Gary! Eventhough your meet was 'graced' with experienced visitors from the Rocky Mtn Chapter, I wished Murray Forman good luck when he mentioned your L78 was entered. Reason: relatively few owners have these reasonably rare cars AND the number of judges actually familiar with them are also scarce.

When will the JG be 'fixed' you ask? Probably never...

Each time a JG book is updated, it seems other errors (commission and omission) creep in. The title of this book was changed from 'Manual' to 'Guide' about 10 years ago for just such reasons. The book is intended to supplement a judge's personal knowledge and NOT to be the ultimate reference authority for absolute truth.

You did have the opportunity to pull your copy of the '65 AIM book, flip it to the C60 section, Sheet E1, where the LH mounted battery components are being installed and ask the judges to point out the 'shield' they'd deducted for...

Bottom line, expect there to be both errors of ommission and commission at every NCRS meet. Also, expect those errors to be minor in scope and not to have a material impact on the judging outcome/bottom line score.

[Gary C.]

Re: Picture or Diagram of the '65 L-78 Battery Shield Setup

Thanks Jack.
Its a learning curve for me and I will be better prepared with the AIM next time. I am very happy with the 65 and now that I have the "Punch List" there are only a few minor issues to fix.
Thanks for your input,
Gary