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  • Jeff B.
    Very Frequent User
    • April 30, 1980
    • 167

    Outside door mirror won't stay put

    Just about every time I close the driver door on my '67, the mirror shifts out of alignment. The mirror seems fairly tight on the ball, and adjusts smoothly, but won't stay put more than 2-3 door closures. Is there any way to tighten it, or maybe "super-glue" it on the ball once it's set where it should be? It is the original mirror assembly, and I'd rather not change it out for a reproduction. All ideas appreciated.
    1967 Coupe 427-390 w/air
  • Jim P.
    Expired
    • August 31, 2003
    • 89

    #2
    Re: Outside door mirror won't stay put

    Behind the mirror is a piece of spring steel held in place by a couple of rivets. The rivets work loose over time and the spring steel starts to slip and lose friction against the ball. You can remove the mirror by carefully pushing in on the mirror ( it will give a little) and removing the metal retainer ring. Then you can drill out the rivets and replace with screws. Reinstall the mirror in reverse. I should last another 30 years. Jim

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    • Gerard F.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • June 30, 2004
      • 3805

      #3
      Re: Outside door mirror won't stay put

      Jeff,

      There are two Restorer articles on this subject. The attachment below is my article from 2005 as a draft:

      https://www.forums.ncrs.org/attachme...5&d=1252988915

      There is a later article in 2008 which replaced the rivet studs with screws, which I think works better then my method for longevity. I'm sure Jeff Salz will chime in.

      I found that just giving the rivets a couple of bangs lasts about 2 years.
      Jerry Fuccillo
      1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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      • Jeffrey S.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • May 31, 1988
        • 1882

        #4
        Re: Outside door mirror won't stay put

        Jerry:
        You've said it all. Both approaches work. Mine still remains tight after several years of Michigan "roads".
        Jeff

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        • Vinnie P.
          Editor NCRS Restorer Magazine
          • May 31, 1990
          • 1567

          #5
          Re: Outside door mirror won't stay put

          Jeff,

          Check your email. The pdf file of the Jeff Salz article was too large to upload/post here...sent email direct to you.

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          • Jeff B.
            Very Frequent User
            • April 30, 1980
            • 167

            #6
            Re: Outside door mirror won't stay put

            Gerard and Vinnie...... Thanks for the insight. I have looked at both techniques, and it doesn't appear too difficult. I will give this a go this weekend, and hopefully fix this dilemma.
            Thanks again for the help. NCRS rocks!
            1967 Coupe 427-390 w/air

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            • Jeff B.
              Very Frequent User
              • April 30, 1980
              • 167

              #7
              Re: Outside door mirror won't stay put

              Update:
              Mirror was disassembled per Gerard's method. I took a 1/4" pin punch and "mushroomed" the the rivets slightly more with 2-3 smart smacks with a hammer. It tightened right up. Reassembled, remounted, and it seems to work as new. Hopefully this fix will last my lifetime.
              Pics are attached. The whole process was actually fairly simple. The mirror is dated Oct 66, and the car was built F23 (Jan 23, 1967) #8902. Bought the car in 1979, unrestored, but wonder if this mirror is the one originally installed; would have thought is should have had a Jan 67 dated mirror. Any opinions?
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              Last edited by Jeff B.; March 27, 2010, 08:55 AM.
              1967 Coupe 427-390 w/air

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              • Gerard F.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • June 30, 2004
                • 3805

                #8
                Re: Outside door mirror won't stay put

                Originally posted by Jeff Bartlett (3541)
                Update:
                Mirror was disassembled per Gerard's method. I took a 1/4" pin punch and "mushroomed" the the rivets slightly more with 2-3 smart smacks with a hammer. It tightened right up. Reassembled, remounted, and it seems to work as new. Hopefully this fix will last my lifetime.
                Pics are attached. The whole process was actually fairly simple. The mirror is dated Oct 66, and the car was built F23 (Jan 23, 1967) #8902. Bought the car in 1979, unrestored, but wonder if this mirror is the one originally installed; would have thought is should have had a Jan 67 dated mirror. Any opinions?

                Jeff,

                You are fine with an October mirror date on a January car. Within the 6 months.

                My original glass was dated January 67 (1-DMI-67) for a June 67 car, almost pushing the 6 month envelope. Guaranteed original factory.

                Glad it was a snap to fix. I have to redo mine.
                Jerry Fuccillo
                1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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                • Wayne M.
                  Expired
                  • March 1, 1980
                  • 6414

                  #9
                  Re: Outside door mirror won't stay put

                  Wasn't there a '67 model year production range when no bowtie was cast into the chrome ?

                  Speaking as one who knows almost nothing about '67's .

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                  • Gerard F.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • June 30, 2004
                    • 3805

                    #10
                    Re: Outside door mirror won't stay put

                    Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
                    Wasn't there a '67 model year production range when no bowtie was cast into the chrome ?

                    Speaking as one who knows almost nothing about '67's .
                    Wayne,

                    The 67 JG says from approx VIN 8000 to10500, you see both the bowtie and non bowtie mirrors. After VIN 10500, no bowtie.

                    But who knows
                    Jerry Fuccillo
                    1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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