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  • Randy R.
    Very Frequent User
    • March 1, 1983
    • 477

    BC/CC paint advice

    The time to start the painting process is getting close. I have decided to use BC/CC on my 67 Marina Blue convertible. The person who will paint the car has restored and painted a number of Corvettes, hot rods and specialty cars over many years. What I am looking for is tips and advice to guide him in applying the paint so that its' appearance is close to lacquer. I have read the posts regarding the dulling of jambs, etc. I am more interested in assuring that the paint does not turn out too shiny and the the metallic flake is correct. I would appreciate any advice.

    Thank you,

    Randy
  • Timothy B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 30, 1983
    • 5186

    #2
    Re: BC/CC paint advice

    Randy,

    My advice is to paint a panel first, compare to other cars and make sure you are happy with the metallic flake size and color match. I would find NCRS team leader for paint and get as much info on product selection as possible before painting anything..

    You can learn alot from other members and there decisions regarding this experence.

    Also, with a metallic car, I would assemble doors hood etc. and paint everything as one just like factory. This will ensure metallic looks the same in all lights..

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    • Stephen L.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 1984
      • 3156

      #3
      Re: BC/CC paint advice

      I have a 67 Marina Blue Coupe.

      First, Paint the jambs, openings etc.

      Then loosely assemble all the parts, doors, buckets, hood, rear panel, etc. so that the panels are in their final positions and color paint.

      At this point you can disassemble for clear.

      If you paint MARINA BLUE in pieces you will see a shade difference under flourescent lights.

      When buffing out the paint, do it under flourescent lighting. That shows all the imperfections, which are hard to see in natural light, but invariably show up at an indoor car show. That also is when the shade differences are most prevalent.
      Attached Files

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      • Michael M.
        Very Frequent User
        • February 1, 1993
        • 604

        #4
        Re: BC/CC paint advice

        Randy it sounds like you have a qualified painter that has done other corvettes, hot rods, and specialty cars. If the painter does not have much experience applying paint to look like lacquer the worst thing you can do is to guide him on how to apply the paint. Like already said let the painter shoot a couple of test panels and see what they look like. Your eyes should tell you whether or not your painter is capable of doing the job correctly.

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        • Terry M.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • September 30, 1980
          • 15599

          #5
          Re: BC/CC paint advice

          Originally posted by Randy Renfandt (6423)
          The time to start the painting process is getting close. I have decided to use BC/CC on my 67 Marina Blue convertible. The person who will paint the car has restored and painted a number of Corvettes, hot rods and specialty cars over many years. What I am looking for is tips and advice to guide him in applying the paint so that its' appearance is close to lacquer. I have read the posts regarding the dulling of jambs, etc. I am more interested in assuring that the paint does not turn out too shiny and the the metallic flake is correct. I would appreciate any advice.

          Thank you,

          Randy
          From what I have gathered from attending a number of paint seminars -- you have a far better chance of achieving the look of a factory paint job using single stage urethane than with BC/CC.

          It seems to me if you or your painter insists on using BC/CC you are starting with one hand tied behind your back.
          Terry

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          • Jack H.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • April 1, 1990
            • 9906

            #6
            Re: BC/CC paint advice

            It seems to me if you or your painter insists on using BC/CC you are starting with one hand tied behind your back.

            Plus, ask the painter how many Corvettes he's done that were successfully campaigned in factory concours judging events recently. Many painters have solid concours d'elegance experience, but just don't understand the factory concours game...

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            • Randy R.
              Very Frequent User
              • March 1, 1983
              • 477

              #7
              Re: BC/CC paint advice

              The painter does not have any experience with prepping a car for judging. No one in this area does. So we are on our own. I was under the impression that single stage paint is not suitable for a metallic color. Is this incorrect?

              Randy

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              • Michael M.
                Very Frequent User
                • February 1, 1993
                • 604

                #8
                Re: BC/CC paint advice

                Yes this is true, most single stage colors are solid colors not metallic.

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                • Dick W.
                  Former NCRS Director Region IV
                  • June 30, 1985
                  • 10483

                  #9
                  Re: BC/CC paint advice

                  You can buy metallic colors in single stage
                  Dick Whittington

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                  • Steven B.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • June 30, 1982
                    • 3986

                    #10
                    Re: BC/CC paint advice

                    Randy, if you are going to have the car judged it may be less of a headache, and less expensive, to transport it to an experienced NCRS painter than hope it comes out right with an unexperienced (NCRS judged) painter. Since paint jobs are so expensive you want to do it only once.

                    Steve

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                    • Michael G.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • January 1, 1997
                      • 1251

                      #11
                      Re: BC/CC paint advice

                      Randy doesn't state his intentions for the car however BC/CC is a durable system and would serve him nicely dependent on the direction he's taking his car. There would be some challenges attempting to Flight Judge the car with this system but is doable.

                      Admittedly single stage will vaguely resemble lacquer however will still be shiner than lacquer. With metallic colors as such is the potential when color sanding to go into the layer below which may not mirror the same finish of metallic......keep in mind I'm saying potential. The single stage will be slightly less shiney than the BC/CC and possibly better suited for judging nonetheless wouldn't rule out using BC/CC.

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                      • Tony S.
                        NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
                        • April 30, 1981
                        • 988

                        #12
                        Re: BC/CC paint advice

                        A lacquer-like appearance can be achieved with BC/CC paint. My '65 red 396 car received no paint deductions at the Waco Regional in '08. The same painter painted a green '65 that was judged at the Killeen Regional last Fall and received no deductions for a BC/CC paint job. Both cars were painted by Mark Gordon whose shop is located in suburban Kansas City. It can be done, but it is tricky. Good luck

                        Tony
                        Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
                        Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
                        Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
                        Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
                        Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

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                        • Randy R.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • March 1, 1983
                          • 477

                          #13
                          Re: BC/CC paint advice

                          My intention for the car is to have it judged a few times but to drive it. From what I have picked up on the discussion board, the lacquer avalible currently would not stand up very well for a driver. Therefore I would like to use a single stage or BC/CC paint. Has anyone used a single stage for a metalic color?
                          I doubt there is an experienced painter within a reasonable distance from my location, so I assume that I will have it painted locally. Can anybody give me some practical tips to make the appearance close to lacquer?
                          Examples would be air pressure, mixing ratios, brands, techniques, tricks, etc. or a source to ask?

                          Thank you,

                          Randy

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