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  • Lee B.
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    • December 9, 2007
    • 11

    65 bottom seat 1/16" indentation vs stitch?

    On my 65 bottom vinyl seat at rear point were it turns down, seat has a 1/16" wide indentation the length of inner seat. I believe its original. But Al Knoch Interiors has a stitched seam. Whats correct?
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  • John L.
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    • February 19, 2009
    • 186

    #2
    Re: 65 bottom seat 1/16" indentation vs stitch?

    Lee
    I don't see a heat stake or stiched seam on my orginal seats,..... It could be that my inserts were replaced before I got the car in '70 but I don't think both would have been repaired,...both are the same. These are from a '65 April build.
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    • Lee B.
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      • December 9, 2007
      • 11

      #3
      Re: 65 bottom seat 1/16" indentation vs stitch?

      My car build date was May 4. I had my car top flight at Regional and 09 San Jose National. The judges were impressed with how original my interior was. Again, another detail I didn't know to ask a question about. They may have addressed that seam area (or lack of seam) differently for different months.

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      • William G.
        Very Frequent User
        • March 31, 1978
        • 154

        #4
        Re: 65 bottom seat 1/16" indentation vs stitch?

        Lee
        Just checked my seat covers and my original seat bottoms were
        with out the sticked seam and they did not have the indentation. The new seat covers from Al Knock are
        with the sticked seam the originals did not have the seam or indentation
        I did not notice that until i saw your post. So i assume that the Al Knock
        seat covers are not correct. So i will ride around with non-original seat
        covers as i will not change them back. My build date is also may 65
        BILL (1868)
        Last edited by William G.; March 2, 2010, 09:01 PM.

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        • Lee B.
          Expired
          • December 9, 2007
          • 11

          #5
          Re: 65 bottom seat 1/16" indentation vs stitch?

          I sent Al Knoch my seat pictures. They said they're going to locate their original seat covers to see what they look like and get back to me. It seemed like they're a little confused also. Will up date you with the their response .

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          • Jim D.
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            • June 30, 1985
            • 2883

            #6
            Re: 65 bottom seat 1/16" indentation vs stitch?

            Originally posted by Lee Brock (48247)
            On my 65 bottom vinyl seat at rear point were it turns down, seat has a 1/16" wide indentation the length of inner seat. I believe its original. But Al Knoch Interiors has a stitched seam. Whats correct?
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            Those are how the originals came, at least mine did (April 65 build). Aftermarket covers that I've seen either have a sewn in seam or nothing at all as it can't be seen with the seat back in the upright position.
            Last edited by Jim D.; March 4, 2010, 04:02 PM.

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            • Lee B.
              Expired
              • December 9, 2007
              • 11

              #7
              Re: 65 bottom seat 1/16" indentation vs stitch?

              Jim,

              So what your saying is yours looks just like mine and are know originals. That's good conformation. Do you think its possible that GM made some seats with the seam stitched at this point? Or no seam at all?

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              • Jim D.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • June 30, 1985
                • 2883

                #8
                Re: 65 bottom seat 1/16" indentation vs stitch?

                Originally posted by Lee Brock (48247)
                Jim,

                So what your saying is yours looks just like mine and are know originals. That's good conformation. Do you think its possible that GM made some seats with the seam stitched at this point? Or no seam at all?
                Mine are definitely original. I bought it from the original owner and the seats have never been replaced. Who knows what was supplied to GM. It would be interesting to hear from others that are 100% positive they have originals.

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                • William G.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • March 31, 1978
                  • 154

                  #9
                  Re: 65 bottom seat 1/16" indentation vs stitch?

                  Checked my seat covers today.
                  I have one that is without seam.
                  The other one has an indention in the bottom seat cover which i
                  believe to be the original one. I have changed the seat foam also on
                  the seats and the cover with the indention i liked to never,get the foam
                  off the springs so i believe it to be original.
                  Al Knock has the seam sewed in which i believe to be incorrect.
                  Bill

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                  • William G.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • March 31, 1978
                    • 154

                    #10
                    Re: 65 bottom seat 1/16" indentation vs stitch?

                    Talked to AL knock today about seat covers and he told me that
                    they are going to make the 65 seat covers with the pressed indentation in them which he believes to be correct. We are talking about the bottoms
                    and quit putting the stiching in them because they believe them to be incorrect. My originals had the pressed indentation and he had a original
                    that also had the indentation.
                    BILL G

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                    • Wayne W.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • April 30, 1982
                      • 3605

                      #11
                      Re: 65 bottom seat 1/16" indentation vs stitch?

                      I check a couple here too. They had the pressed seam.

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                      • John L.
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                        • February 19, 2009
                        • 186

                        #12
                        Re: 65 bottom seat 1/16" indentation vs stitch?

                        Lee

                        [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']I have been refurbishing the seats lower tracks and a closer examination of the bottom covers reveals that both inserts (the center of the cover and the piece in question) have been replaced.[/FONT]

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                        • Lee B.
                          Expired
                          • December 9, 2007
                          • 11

                          #13
                          Re: 65 bottom seat 1/16" indentation vs stitch?

                          Al Knock called me back Monday after he located his original 65 seat. Confirmed his seat was just like mine. Said he did not know why the seam was stitched in the first place, said it could have been done years ago and that's the way they continued to make them. As Bill stated, Al Knock will not be using the stitching anymore. The people at Al Knock are good people.
                          Thanks for all the input.
                          Bill, are you going to have your seats redone?

                          Lee

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                          • William G.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • March 31, 1978
                            • 154

                            #14
                            Re: 65 bottom seat 1/16" indentation vs stitch?

                            Lee
                            yes i am going to have my redone. I am redoing them myself.
                            AL called me today and said they had the seat covers done with the
                            indentation and will ship them out tomorrow. Looking forward to receiving
                            them. I had bought a set of seat covers and they were stiched.
                            I just had installed them on one seat and the other covers had a blue
                            spots on them so i sent them back to have the spots removed or new
                            cover replaced. AL knock called me to tell me they could not remove the
                            blue spots and the covers were dated 1989 which must have been when
                            I purchased them but i had never put the covers on. He was going to replace covers for me any way. During our talk we came to the
                            the agreement that bottom seat cover had indendation in it not the stiching. He is making a complete set of covers for me with a minimal charge. He did not have to do that. Wonderful people.
                            Bill

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