63 throttle rod question

[John D.]

Re: 63 throttle rod question

Jon, Nice LWC you have. I have it's twin. Known world wide as Little White Car. Fuel filter fitting on340 and 360HP. Guys think the fitting is supposed to be chrome plated. But it isn't. Original known fittings are industrial nickel. Yeah I know a few here don't agree but you'll have that. Have proof.
Again nice 63 you have. What's the serial number. Don't give me the exact number-just somthing close. Mine is 9900. JD

[Michael H.]

Re: 63 throttle rod question

Fuel filter fitting on340 and 360HP. Guys think the fitting is supposed to be chrome plated. But it isn't. Original known fittings are industrial nickel. Yeah I know a few here don't agree but you'll have that. Have proof.

That's not true, and you don't have proof. If you did, you would post it here. Lets see your "proof".

I DO have the GM document that shows nickle/chrome for the fuel line fittings for later 340/360 HP cars. (no chrome on early 63 cars built before 1 January 63 though)

[Jon R.]

Re: 63 throttle rod question

Jon, Nice LWC you have. I have it's twin. Known world wide as Little White Car. Fuel filter fitting on340 and 360HP. Guys think the fitting is supposed to be chrome plated. But it isn't. Original known fittings are industrial nickel. Yeah I know a few here don't agree but you'll have that. Have proof.
Again nice 63 you have. What's the serial number. Don't give me the exact number-just somthing close. Mine is 9900. JD

John, Thanks, the car is mine, however, just to clarify, the picture of the engine compartment is not! My car's name is also very simple - "Sting". Her VIN is 115192. (I am not sure why the exact number would be an issue - it is not my social security number!) She is also listed on the C-2 Registry. She is a 300Hp, 4 speed Muncie with a saddle leather interior. I have only owned her about 2 months, but I have really enjoyed those 2 months! She seems to be fairly original, but I am still learning!

Regards,

Jon

[John D.]

Re: 63 throttle rod question

That's not true, and you don't have proof. If you did, you would post it here. Lets see your "proof".

I DO have the GM document that shows nickle/chrome for the fuel line fittings for later 340/360 HP cars. (no chrome on early 63 cars built before 1 January 63 though)

Only proof I have is personal observation. No documents. In fact when I look at original cars this is one part that catches my eye. Now I am not naive to the fact that the chrome could have flaked off the nickle. And I am not saying all were nickle.
You and Hinckley, etc discussed this same subject quite a while ago here.
I have in my possession 90degree fittings that go on the end of the GF90 that are nickle and are beat up originals.
Nice thing about using that fitting is that you don't have to worry about the chrome flaking off and getting into the FI's.

But once again I have no proof. No documentations. I just see a lot of those fittings when customers send me their 63/65 units for restorations.

[Michael H.]

Re: 63 throttle rod question

Only proof I have is personal observation. No documents. .

JD, the parts in question, including the fuel filter fittings, were nickel/chrome.
A GM NPC (notice of production change) clearly shows that beginning on 3 January 1963, several 340 and 360 HP engine components were changed to nickel/chrome. (no chrome prior to that production date) This was, obviously, a two step process.
The reason most of these parts may not appear as shinny as many other chrome parts is because they were not polished prior to plating. The somewhat rough texture would slightly dull the appearance.
Nickel plating, by itself, is actually dull. It's the clear chrome coat that makes it shinny/reflective.

I'll dig out the NPC and post it later. The heading on the NPC states that the "following parts nickle/chrome plated to improve appearance" entered production on 3 Jan 63.
I'm not sure what the plating would have been on cars produced prior to the 3 Jan date. Could have been zincad on some and no plating at all on others.

The list includes; (for L76/340 and L84/360 HP)
Oil filler cap, Oil fille tube, Dip stick, Choke pipe, fuel filter bracket, fuel line fittings etc etc.

I've had many new fittings nickle/chrome plated years ago and they turn out looking exactly like originals.

By the way, as you know, the fuel line fitting at the fuel meter is not chrome. The AIM shows that it was supposed to be the same chrome fitting as the fitting at the fuel filter, but it wasn't.

[John D.]

Re: 63 throttle rod question

JD, the parts in question, including the fuel filter fittings, were nickel/chrome.
A GM NPC (notice of production change) clearly shows that beginning on 3 January 1963, several 340 and 360 HP engine components were changed to nickel/chrome. (no chrome prior to that production date) This was, obviously, a two step process.
The reason most of these parts may not appear as shinny as many other chrome parts is because they were not polished prior to plating. The somewhat rough texture would slightly dull the appearance.
Nickel plating, by itself, is actually dull. It's the clear chrome coat that makes it shinny/reflective.

I'll dig out the NPC and post it later. The heading on the NPC states that the "following parts nickle/chrome plated to improve appearance" entered production on 3 Jan 63.




The list includes; (for L76/340 and L84/360 HP)
Oil filler cap, Oil filler, tube, Dip stick, Choke pipe, fuel filter bracket, fuel line fittings etc etc.

I've had many new fittings nickle/chrome plated years ago and they turn out looking exactly like originals.

By the way, as you know, the fuel line fitting at the fuel meter is not chrome. The AIM shows that it was supposed to be the same chrome fitting as the fitting at the fuel filter, but it wasn't.

Michael, As always thanks for good information. Much appreciated. JD

[Michael H.]

Re: 63 throttle rod question

Michael, As always thanks for good information. Much appreciated. JD

When I find the NPC, I may have to send it to you (or someone) to post. Just got a notice from headquarters that my NCRS membership is about to expire. I'll post it tonight if I can.