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  • Keith R.
    Very Frequent User
    • August 31, 2001
    • 660

    Rear axle U-Bolts Original vs. Repop

    Got a chassis question. I was planning on replacing the rear axle U-bolts GM Part# 3723981 with new ones from Paragon (part # 125K). In comparing the two, I noticed that the ones I pulled off the car are about an inch longer than the reproductions and are about a 1/2" thick with a distinctly flat section on the end of the U. The repops are about .46" thick, the threaded area is 1.55" long opposed to the ones which came off the car which have a 2.59" threaded section. The repops also have a virtually indistinguishable flat area at the end of the U. Pics are posted. Are there any chassis judges out there who can tell me which are correct?
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    Keith MacRae
    NCRS #36692
    New Mexico Chapter
    1960 290HP FI
    2013 427 Convertible

    Shade tree mechanic and
    B-52 pilot extraordinaire
  • Robert E.
    Expired
    • April 1, 2004
    • 398

    #2
    Re: Rear axle U-Bolts Original vs. Repop

    I'll bump you question to the top.

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    • Bruce B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 1996
      • 2930

      #3
      Re: Rear axle U-Bolts Original vs. Repop

      I am not familiar with the judging aspect of the U bolts but make sure you get good quality parts.
      I ran across some very poor quality ones which had bad material characteristics and the threads stripped when I torqued them to the specs.
      They were Chinese imports.

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      • Terry D.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • May 31, 1987
        • 2691

        #4
        Re: Rear axle U-Bolts Original vs. Repop

        Keith & Gina
        According to my judging sheets, two years old, the rear suspension is broken down into 5 catagories, frame&brake&fuel lines (13 points), frame stencil (2 points) rear suspension, all components (14 points) rear axle housing assy., driveshaft, & rebound straps (6 points) and mufflers, tail pipes & hangers (20 points). As you can see your particular part is not mentioned. If you want more info I would suggest you look in the front of the "Driveline" and contact your team leader, he will no doubt be able to tell you more than me. As for the difference in the u bolts, are you sure yours are original? I know back in the day when we raced a 62 we bought longer u bolts to bolt on a big set of traction bars Hopefully someone will jump in with the original dimensions.
        Terry

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        • Keith R.
          Very Frequent User
          • August 31, 2001
          • 660

          #5
          Re: Rear axle U-Bolts Original vs. Repop

          Thanks Terry - good idea. Perhaps they'll know or point me in the right direction.
          Keith MacRae
          NCRS #36692
          New Mexico Chapter
          1960 290HP FI
          2013 427 Convertible

          Shade tree mechanic and
          B-52 pilot extraordinaire

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          • Bill M.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • April 1, 1977
            • 1386

            #6
            Re: Rear axle U-Bolts Original vs. Repop

            Keith:

            My '59 has the OE 4-leaf springs, u-bolts, and nuts. I get the threaded length at about 1-3/4. The u-bolts extend about 1-1/4 below the 4-holed spring plate.

            Bill

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            • Tom S.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • March 1, 2004
              • 1087

              #7
              Re: Rear axle U-Bolts Original vs. Repop

              I agree with the statement make sure it is good quality material. I had several problems with suspension parts on my 69. They are using alot of chinese material that is just not any good, not to mention unsafe. And most all the suppliers are selling it . Beware!

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              • Rick C.
                Very Frequent User
                • March 1, 1986
                • 183

                #8
                Re: Rear axle U-Bolts Original vs. Repop

                FWIW, my u-bolts are 6-5/8" long, .465" diameter, and the threads are 1-11/16" long. There are no flat areas on the end of the U. More like the repro than what you took off your car.
                Rick

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                • Keith R.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • August 31, 2001
                  • 660

                  #9
                  Re: Rear axle U-Bolts Original vs. Repop

                  Originally posted by Rick Casper (9781)
                  FWIW, my u-bolts are 6-5/8" long, .465" diameter, and the threads are 1-11/16" long. There are no flat areas on the end of the U. More like the repro than what you took off your car.
                  Rick

                  Thanks Rick. Do you know if yours are originals? BTW, a check of Joe Tipoli's Chassis Restoration Guide states that the Rear Spring U bolts are 1/2" -20 -13 1/4" Dev. Lgth. Not sure what "Dev. Lgth." stands for but if it means the total length of the bar before it is shaped into a "U" then that fits with what yours measure. Looks like the ones I took off the car are not original.
                  Keith MacRae
                  NCRS #36692
                  New Mexico Chapter
                  1960 290HP FI
                  2013 427 Convertible

                  Shade tree mechanic and
                  B-52 pilot extraordinaire

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                  • Terry M.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • September 30, 1980
                    • 15599

                    #10
                    Re: Rear axle U-Bolts Original vs. Repop

                    Originally posted by Keith & Gina Mac Rae (36692)
                    Thanks Rick. Do you know if yours are originals? BTW, a check of Joe Tipoli's Chassis Restoration Guide states that the Rear Spring U bolts are 1/2" -20 -13 1/4" Dev. Lgth. Not sure what "Dev. Lgth." stands for but if it means the total length of the bar before it is shaped into a "U" then that fits with what yours measure. Looks like the ones I took off the car are not original.
                    Developed length is what the U bolt would measure if it were straightened, or put another way just what you said: what the bar was before it was bent.
                    Terry

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                    • Dennis C.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • June 30, 2002
                      • 884

                      #11
                      Re: Rear axle U-Bolts Original vs. Repop

                      I replaced the shock mounting plate on my 61 this past fall. I took this photo then. It is not a very good photo but maybe it will help. The one caveat is I can't say for sure it is original.

                      Dennis
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                      • Rick C.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • March 1, 1986
                        • 183

                        #12
                        Re: Rear axle U-Bolts Original vs. Repop

                        Keith,
                        I can't be sure they are original, but I think it's a pretty good bet they are not repros since I've had the car since '73 and I don't think there was a lot of reproduction activity at that time.
                        Rick

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