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  • Roald P.
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    • February 20, 2009
    • 48

    1968 quadrajet question

    Hello

    I have been trying to find out why my new "remanufactured" quadrajet causes my engine to 'knock' (68' 327 cui, auto)

    I think its lean, a buddy of mine tore it down and found the following:

    prim. jets .068
    rods .033
    idle tubes .038
    down ch. .052
    lower air bl. .060
    upper air bl. .090

    Sec. rods CH/.055
    POE well restr. .030
    POE restr. .040
    tube restr. .023
    M hanger

    the lower idle air bleeds: .062
    the upper idle air bleeds: .090

    main air bleeds in airhorn: .052
    main air bleeds in body: .114

    No APT system

    What shoud it be for a correct 1968 qjet specified for a 300 HP engine with auto and air?

    Thanks,

    Roald
  • Edward J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 15, 2008
    • 6940

    #2
    Re: 1968 quadrajet question

    Roald, possiably a timing issue, advanced to far, maybe the check the vaccum advance operation,and the mechanical advance operation ,engine temp.- seem okay? a vaccum leak will lean out the mixture, but there should be a tell-tell sign, like the idle maybe rough.

    How does the car run and idle? other than the pinging.
    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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    • Roald P.
      Expired
      • February 20, 2009
      • 48

      #3
      Re: 1968 quadrajet question

      Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
      Roald, possiably a timing issue, advanced to far, maybe the check the vaccum advance operation,and the mechanical advance operation ,engine temp.- seem okay? a vaccum leak will lean out the mixture, but there should be a tell-tell sign, like the idle maybe rough.

      How does the car run and idle? other than the pinging.
      it runs fine, idles good, no vacuum leaks, timing set very conservative at max total 30 degree's and vacuum advance disabled, still knock... I changed the carb to a Holley that was setup for a 350 cui and all pinging/knocks problems went away, but I would rather use the qjet for the original look

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      • Clem Z.
        Expired
        • January 1, 2006
        • 9427

        #4
        Re: 1968 quadrajet question

        check to see if the EGR valve is working because with out the exhaust gas to cool the intake charge it will ping..

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        • Terry M.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • September 30, 1980
          • 15582

          #5
          Re: 1968 quadrajet question

          Clem, Unless somkeone has made some changes there is no EGR on a 1968 -- thank goodness.
          Terry

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          • Clem Z.
            Expired
            • January 1, 2006
            • 9427

            #6
            Re: 1968 quadrajet question

            Originally posted by Roald Poulsen (50103)
            Hello

            I have been trying to find out why my new "remanufactured" quadrajet causes my engine to 'knock' (68' 327 cui, auto)

            I think its lean, a buddy of mine tore it down and found the following:

            prim. jets .068
            rods .033
            idle tubes .038
            down ch. .052
            lower air bl. .060
            upper air bl. .090

            Sec. rods CH/.055
            POE well restr. .030
            POE restr. .040
            tube restr. .023
            M hanger

            the lower idle air bleeds: .062
            the upper idle air bleeds: .090

            main air bleeds in airhorn: .052
            main air bleeds in body: .114

            No APT system

            What shoud it be for a correct 1968 qjet specified for a 300 HP engine with auto and air?

            Thanks,

            Roald
            the 68 327 corvette carb #7028208 should have #71 jet,#46 pri rod and a sec rod stamped "AN" with a .070 tip
            Last edited by Clem Z.; January 28, 2010, 07:38 PM.

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            • Edward J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • September 15, 2008
              • 6940

              #7
              Re: 1968 quadrajet question

              Roald, I find that the holley carbs are jetted quite differently, than the Q/jet, depending on the cfm.s of your holley, and the Q/jet may indeed make the difference of a slightly richer mixture with the holley.is the Q-jet carb. a factory carb, for you 68/300 engine?

              I dont have any spec.s on the metering of you carb. but there is one member that posts quite often. with spec. on the carbs.as I have rebuild many carbs in my day, from dealership experience. if all the internal spec.s are on such as the float level, metering rods, jetting is the only other thing.
              New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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              • Roald P.
                Expired
                • February 20, 2009
                • 48

                #8
                Re: 1968 quadrajet question

                Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
                Roald, I find that the holley carbs are jetted quite differently, than the Q/jet, depending on the cfm.s of your holley, and the Q/jet may indeed make the difference of a slightly richer mixture with the holley.is the Q-jet carb. a factory carb, for you 68/300 engine?
                the holley was a 670 street avenger and an old 600 cfm spread bore holley. I tested two holley carbs both worked without knocking and the engine had more power with them.

                no, the qjet is a rebuilt from zip corvette - the original is unfortunately long gone

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                • Jim T.
                  Expired
                  • March 1, 1993
                  • 5351

                  #9
                  Re: 1968 quadrajet question

                  Originally posted by Roald Poulsen (50103)
                  the holley was a 670 street avenger and an old 600 cfm spread bore holley. I tested two holley carbs both worked without knocking and the engine had more power with them.

                  no, the qjet is a rebuilt from zip corvette - the original is unfortunately long gone
                  Roald since 1974 I have been using a Holley 6210 650 spreadbore double pumper on my original owner 68. Just recently put a Holley renew kit in it. I like the positve control of the secondarys with this carb. Best change I have ever made to the car. Great performance on the original L79 327/350HP with M21 and 3:70 rear.

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                  • Edward J.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • September 15, 2008
                    • 6940

                    #10
                    Re: 1968 quadrajet question

                    Roald, sometimes carb.s out of the box are a hit or miss. one carb. number may fit a dozen or more applications. as Clem posted the metering rod sizes to be different than what you posted. there are many good quality rebuilders in the driveline or maybe some of the TSB members know. and in general, they know all the tricks of the metering needed for todays gasoline formulas.
                    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                    • Roald P.
                      Expired
                      • February 20, 2009
                      • 48

                      #11
                      Re: 1968 quadrajet question

                      Originally posted by Clem Zahrobsky (45134)
                      the 68 327 corvette carb #7028208 should have #71 jet,#46 pri rod and a sec rod stamped "AN" with a .070 tip
                      Thanks

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                      • Paul H.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • September 30, 2000
                        • 678

                        #12
                        Re: 1968 quadrajet question

                        Originally posted by Jim Trekell (22375)
                        Roald since 1974 I have been using a Holley 6210 650 spreadbore double pumper on my original owner 68. Just recently put a Holley renew kit in it. I like the positve control of the secondarys with this carb. Best change I have ever made to the car. Great performance on the original L79 327/350HP with M21 and 3:70 rear.
                        Did the same with my otherwise stock 68 427/390. Felt like I bolted on 100 horsepower. Great throttle response and great low and mid-range torque. I know many swear by the Q-Jet but there are very few people out there who rebuild them properly.

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