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  • Michael H.
    Expired
    • January 28, 2008
    • 7477

    65-67 3829387 Alt Pulley

    Some time ago, there was an interesting discussion about the 3829387 alternator pulley used for 65 and later big blocks. The discussion focused on the part number and code that may or may not have been stamped on the face of the pulley. At first, the discussion seemed to indicate that all of these pulleys were stamped. Eventually, it was decided that the number was stamped starting some time in early 1965.
    A few claimed that no number would have been on this part until some time into the 66 model year. Others strongly disagreed.

    A VERY interesting article in the new Restorer magazine by Herb Larsen may show that, indeed, NO early/mid production 65's and most likely no early 66 cars had a stamped pulley.
    Included in the article is the GM print for the 3829387 pulley. In the revision list, it shows that the stamp was ADDED to the print on 19 May 1965. (doesn't mean they started stamping pulleys on 19 May 65)

    That means all pulleys made prior to that date were unstamped. It also means that it may be SEVERAL months before stamped pulleys actually made their way out of their source and into bins on the assembly line.
    It's unlikely that any 65 car would have left the plant with a stamped pulley. It's also possible that early 66 cars may have had unstamped pulleys also.

    I always wondered about this because my Nov 65 built 66 has what I always thought was the original unstamped pulley. I've seen many other examples of unrestored mid/late 1965 CY cars/alternators over the decades too that do not have the stamp.
    Last edited by Michael H.; January 20, 2010, 01:32 PM.
  • Bob J.
    Very Frequent User
    • November 30, 1977
    • 713

    #2
    Re: 65-67 3829387 Alt Pulley

    My June 65 396 has its original pulley and its unstamped.Bob

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    • Wayne M.
      Expired
      • February 29, 1980
      • 6414

      #3
      Re: 65-67 3829387 Alt Pulley

      Michael -- this is definitely a service 387 pulley, bought at Carlise in the early '90s. IIRC, was in a brown cardboard box with the blue/white GM sticker with black lettering.

      NO part #, and it has a slight goldish tint, which is wearing off (I forget the plating name).

      Where is the stamped number located ?
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      Last edited by Wayne M.; January 20, 2010, 06:44 PM. Reason: location

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      • Peter L.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • May 31, 1983
        • 1930

        #4
        Re: 64-65 and 66-67 sb Base Motor Alt Pulley Fans

        Michael - Sometime ago I wrote an article in the IL NCRS Off Road newsletter on the differences between the sb base motor alternator pulley fans and along with the change in the configuration of the blades from the 64-65 pulley fans to the 66-67 pulley fans. If I recall correctly they put the part numbers on the 66-67 pulley fans and there was no part number on the original 64-65 pulley fans. Pete

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        • Michael H.
          Expired
          • January 28, 2008
          • 7477

          #5
          Re: 64-65 and 66-67 sb Base Motor Alt Pulley Fans

          Originally posted by Peter Lindahl (6598)
          Michael - Sometime ago I wrote an article in the IL NCRS Off Road newsletter on the differences between the sb base motor alternator pulley fans and along with the change in the configuration of the blades from the 64-65 pulley fans to the 66-67 pulley fans. If I recall correctly they put the part numbers on the 66-67 pulley fans and there was no part number on the original 64-65 pulley fans. Pete
          I wonder if part numbers began to appear on many GM alternator pulleys around that time?

          I find it amazing that any of these lacked a GM part number prior to the mid 60's.

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          • Michael H.
            Expired
            • January 28, 2008
            • 7477

            #6
            Re: 65-67 3829387 Alt Pulley

            Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
            Michael -- this is definitely a service 387 pulley, bought at Carlise in the early '90s. IIRC, was in a brown cardboard box with the blue/white GM sticker with black lettering.

            NO part #, and it has a slight goldish tint, which is wearing off (I forget the plating name).

            Where is the stamped number located ?
            I don't see a part number on the face. Could that be one from the 63-65 era? This same pulley was used on 63-65 pass car with 409 engine.

            I ordered several of these around 1980 and all had the part number stamped on the front. The plating was deep gold. (incorrect)

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            • Peter L.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • May 31, 1983
              • 1930

              #7
              Re: 65-67 3829387 Alt Pulley

              Michael - I check my alternator pully information and some of the (63) 64-65 alternator pulleys were stamped with the part number; but not all of them were stamped with part numbers; but I don't know when the p/n stamped versions began appearing. Pete

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              • Michael H.
                Expired
                • January 28, 2008
                • 7477

                #8
                Re: 65-67 3829387 Alt Pulley

                Originally posted by Peter Lindahl (6598)
                Michael - I check my alternator pully information and some of the (63) 64-65 alternator pulleys were stamped with the part number; but not all of them were stamped with part numbers; but I don't know when the p/n stamped versions began appearing. Pete
                Thanks Peter. Some of the GM prints show the part number info but at the bottom it states "optional".
                I see it doesn't say optional for the 3829387 for the May 65 revision though. Maybe it became mandatory after that date?

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                • Tom D.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • September 30, 1981
                  • 2126

                  #9
                  Re: 65-67 3829387 Alt Pulley

                  Also, thanks to Herb for putting this article together.
                  https://MichiganNCRS.org
                  Michigan Chapter
                  Tom Dingman

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                  • Michael H.
                    Expired
                    • January 28, 2008
                    • 7477

                    #10
                    Re: 65-67 3829387 Alt Pulley

                    Originally posted by Tom Dingman (4889)
                    Also, thanks to Herb for putting this article together.
                    Yes, thanks Herb. I mentioned Herb in my first post.

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                    • Ronald L.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • October 18, 2009
                      • 3248

                      #11
                      Re: 65-67 3829387 Alt Pulley

                      Another data point--

                      My last day of April has this <3829387 AI> on an aged original alternator dated April 20 1966.

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