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  • Ray G.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 1986
    • 1189

    switching VIN tag legal?



    I don't think so.
    And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
    I hope you dance


  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43221

    #2
    Re: switching VIN tag legal?

    Originally posted by Ray Geiger (9992)
    Ray------


    I can tell you that in California, at least, it's DEFINITELY NOT LEGAL
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Lynn H.
      Expired
      • December 1, 1996
      • 514

      #3
      Re: switching VIN tag legal?

      Certainly not in Michigan either. I do not of anywhere where they would allow that. Following up on some previous threads with the Michigan Secretary of State, they told me it was against the law here to re stamp engine pads.
      Lynn

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      • Dick W.
        Former NCRS Director Region IV
        • June 30, 1985
        • 10483

        #4
        Re: switching VIN tag legal?

        listing gone! I do not know the circumstances on this listing but, if you had to remove the tag, you would not talk about it. The only case I can think of is a C-3 with severe rust in the left W/S post
        Dick Whittington

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        • John D.
          Very Frequent User
          • June 30, 1991
          • 875

          #5
          Re: switching VIN tag legal?

          Some interesting stuff on this subject compiled by an attorney on another board.....

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          • Robert I.
            Very Frequent User
            • July 31, 2004
            • 164

            #6
            Re: switching VIN tag legal?

            <I can tell you that in California, at least, it's DEFINITELY NOT LEGAL

            In the 60s, I had a friend that was a CHP officer. He told me how people register stolen cars.

            You stole a car and then bought a wrecked version of the same car and switched the VIN plates.

            Later he showed up in a Shelby Mustang. Always wondered about how he got that car?

            Later he became an attorney, worked for the DA's office and is now a judge.
            ____________________

            Bob Immler

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            • Ray G.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • May 31, 1986
              • 1189

              #7
              Re: switching VIN tag legal?

              Originally posted by John Daly (19684)
              Some interesting stuff on this subject compiled by an attorney on another board.....

              http://www.boss302.com/legal.htm
              Interesting reading John.

              Reading through your post I wondered how this would affect cars (we know & love) that have a history of VIN tags disappearing because of faulty attachment or attachment to inappropriate location.

              Ray
              And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
              I hope you dance


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              • George W.
                Very Frequent User
                • May 31, 2000
                • 544

                #8
                Re: switching VIN tag legal?

                Do the same rules apply to trim tags?

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • February 1, 1988
                  • 43221

                  #9
                  Re: switching VIN tag legal?

                  Originally posted by Robert Immler (42290)
                  <

                  You stole a car and then bought a wrecked version of the same car and switched the VIN plates.

                  Robert------



                  ...or, you wrecked your car with no insurance to cover it, so you go out and steal one of the same year, make and model, transfer VIN plate and "you've got your car back again like nothing ever happened". You can even part out the wrecked car, so you end up "ahead of the game".

                  I think there are LOTS of Corvettes out there with VIN tags that don't match the frame VIN derivative. But, who ever really checks frame numbers?

                  I've even seen several Corvettes with VIN tags that weren't even from a Corvette. Want to "upgrade" from an old "junker" Chevelle or Chevy II you have paperwork on? Steal a Corvette and transfer the VIN plate. Now you have a Corvette you can register and, even, sell to someone else. Other than, possibly, NCRS-types, who ever checks that a VIN tag is actually a Corvette VIN tag?
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43221

                    #10
                    Re: switching VIN tag legal?

                    Originally posted by George Wright (34257)
                    Do the same rules apply to trim tags?
                    George------


                    Generally, no (although there might be some state exceptions). In California, the prohibition on transfer applies to tags bearing "numbers used for registration purposes".
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Terry M.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • September 30, 1980
                      • 15599

                      #11
                      Re: switching VIN tag legal?

                      I have found some non-Corvette VIN tags on Corvettes. Generally not at NCRS meets, but other shows seem to attract a wider variety of car "enthusiast."
                      Terry

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                      • Ray G.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • May 31, 1986
                        • 1189

                        #12
                        Re: switching VIN tag legal?

                        Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                        I have found some non-Corvette VIN tags on Corvettes. Generally not at NCRS meets, but other shows seem to attract a wider variety of car "enthusiast."
                        Hello Terry;

                        So, when we see such an occurrence are we morally or legally bound to speak up?

                        Don't know if I would have the guts.

                        Ray
                        And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
                        I hope you dance


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                        • Bill M.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 1, 1977
                          • 1386

                          #13
                          Re: switching VIN tag legal?

                          Originally posted by Ray Geiger (9992)
                          Hello Terry;

                          So, when we see such an occurrence are we morally or legally bound to speak up?

                          Ray
                          Happened to a friend in the 70s. His '65 was stolen. His insurance paid for the car. He was happy.

                          Months later, he found his car at a strip club; a stripper was the new owner. He called the Detroit cops. The VIN tag was for an Impala. The cop's position was that the title matched the VIN; it's OK.

                          He didn't want the car back, so he didn't push it.

                          Maybe the cop got special consideration from the new owner?

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                          • Rick S.
                            Expired
                            • January 1, 2003
                            • 1203

                            #14
                            Re: switching VIN tag legal?

                            [quote=Bill Mashinter (1350);464797]Happened to a friend in the 70s. His '65 was stolen. His insurance paid for the car. He was happy.

                            Months later, he found his car at a strip club; a stripper was the new owner. He called the Detroit cops. The VIN tag was for an Impala. The cop's position was that the title matched the VIN; it's OK.

                            He didn't want the car back, so he didn't push it.

                            "Maybe the cop got special consideration from the new owner?"[/quote]

                            Wouldn't suprise me as the last Mayor (Kwame Kilpatrick) got a lot of special considerations, including a special cell.

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                            • John H.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • December 1, 1997
                              • 16513

                              #15
                              Re: switching VIN tag legal?

                              Originally posted by George Wright (34257)
                              Do the same rules apply to trim tags?
                              George -

                              So far, only in Oklahoma - one of our 1st-Generation ('67-'69) Camaro guys is an attorney, and got the law written and passed by the Oklahoma legislature last year. Fake trim tags are rampant in the '67-'69 Camaro world, especially on Z/28's, SS's, 427 COPO's, and Pace Cars; about 1/3 of those cars advertised for sale on-line have fake trim tags - we (CRG) have been tracking them for years.

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