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  • Troy G.
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    • October 21, 2008
    • 3

    Sway Bars

    Did 1975 small block standard corvettes come with rear sway bars ? Or was it a special order or maybe a option ?
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43212

    #2
    Re: Sway Bars

    Originally posted by Troy Graham (49601)
    Did 1975 small block standard corvettes come with rear sway bars ? Or was it a special order or maybe a option ?
    Troy-----


    For 1975, a rear sway bar was installed only if FE-7 suspension or the Z-07 performance package was installed on the car. It was not otherwise available.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Troy G.
      Expired
      • October 21, 2008
      • 3

      #3
      Re: Sway Bars

      Thanks Joe,

      I might add one if I can find NOS parts. So much for this car being all orginal. Will it matter if it is a big block or small block sway bar?

      Troy

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      • John H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1997
        • 16513

        #4
        Re: Sway Bars

        Originally posted by Troy Graham (49601)
        Thanks Joe,

        I might add one if I can find NOS parts. So much for this car being all orginal. Will it matter if it is a big block or small block sway bar?

        Troy
        Troy -

        It's not a great idea to add a rear stabilizer bar without compensating for it with a stiffer front bar; if you just add a rear bar, it will increase rear roll stiffness and the tendency for oversteer, particularly at the limit.

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        • Troy G.
          Expired
          • October 21, 2008
          • 3

          #5
          Re: Sway Bars

          Thanks,
          You guys are the stuff. We will leave it alone and spend the money on gas or NCRS membership!

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          • Duke W.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • January 1, 1993
            • 15662

            #6
            Re: Sway Bars

            IIRC the '74 FE7 suspension option was basically the same at F-40 from the sixties, which was the same as the '63 Z-06 setup - 15/16" front bar, 550/305 lb/in springs and no rear bar.

            FE7 used the same springs, but increased the front bar size to 1 1/8" inch. Too compensate for the greater front roll stiffness due to the larger front bar, which would have increased understeer with no other changes, a rear 7/16" bar was added to rebalance the roll stiffness.

            This setup would work okay in a big block, but it would understeer more than a small block due to the greater front end mass.

            The F-41 suspension for sixties big blocks used the same springs with the 15/16" front bar and a 9/16" rear bar. Looking at the bars you can see that the big block has less understeer bias due to the greater front end mass, which naturally increases understeer.

            F-41 (big blocks) involved the same substituition of parts as F-40 (small blocks) The difference is that the base big block suspension included a 9/16" rear bar, and this remained in place with F-41.

            Duke
            Last edited by Duke W.; January 5, 2010, 09:34 PM.

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43212

              #7
              Re: Sway Bars

              Originally posted by Duke Williams (22045)
              IIRC the '74 FE7 suspension option was basically the same at F-40 from the sixties, which was the same as the '63 Z-06 setup - 15/16" front bar, 550/305 lb/in springs and no rear bar.

              FE7 used the same springs, but increased the front bar size to 1 1/8" inch. Too compensate for the greater front roll stiffness due to the larger front bar, which would have increased understeer with no other changes, a rear 7/16" bar was added to rebalance the roll stiffness.

              This setup would work okay in a big block, but it would understeer more than a small block due to the greater front end mass.

              The F-41 suspension for sixties big blocks used the same springs with the 15/16" front bar and a 9/16" rear bar. Looking at the bars you can see that the big block has less understeer bias due to the greater front end mass, which naturally increases understeer.

              F-41 (big blocks) involved the same substituition of parts as F-40 (small blocks) The difference is that the base big block suspension included a 9/16" rear bar, and this remained in place with F-41.

              Duke
              An interesting note: 1969 ZL-1's were equipped with F-41 suspension and, as far as I know, a rear sway bar like all big blocks. However, the ZL-1 engine weighed slightly less than a base engine small block.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Duke W.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • January 1, 1993
                • 15662

                #8
                Re: Sway Bars

                Yes, that is interesting. A dressed ZL-1 probably weighed about the same as the dressed base 350 - something on the order of 550 -600 pounds.

                The '67 AMA spec list the "427 engine" option at 175 pounds, which is probably all on the front end.

                Duke

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                • Lynn H.
                  Expired
                  • December 1, 1996
                  • 514

                  #9
                  Re: Sway Bars

                  Originally posted by Troy Graham (49601)
                  Did 1975 small block standard corvettes come with rear sway bars ? Or was it a special order or maybe a option ?
                  Troy,
                  ALL the Corvettes were small block cars in 1975, so any rear sway bar set up after 74 production would have been on a small block car.
                  Lynn

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