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  • Dale C.
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    • October 31, 1999
    • 844

    GM nuts and bolts numbers?

    Does anyone have a conversion chart or pub for the nuts, bolts, and rivets by part #'s in the AIM as to what size they are? So you could order them from venders that have their own #'s like Corvete Centeral. I think there is a GM ref book for what these fastener #'s are, and if so, is it out there for us?
    Dale
  • Wayne M.
    Expired
    • February 29, 1980
    • 6414

    #2
    Re: GM nuts and bolts numbers?

    Originally posted by Dale Carlson (33147)
    Does anyone have a conversion chart or pub for the nuts, bolts, and rivets by part #'s in the AIM as to what size they are? So you could order them from venders that have their own #'s like Corvete Centeral. I think there is a GM ref book for what these fastener #'s are, and if so, is it out there for us?
    Dale

    Dale -- there's no comprehensive listing of the spec's for each part # in the AIM's, to my knowledge, but in the big P&A Chevrolet catalogs, Gr 8.900, Standard Parts Section, you sometimes get lucky and the part # matches the AIM, and then you'll get the grade, length, bolt dia. and threads per inch. Same applies to nuts, lock washers retainer clips and springs, cotter pins, , etc.

    These numbers changed often, so you're best to have the P&A30 of 1965 for the '65 AIM (for example). Even so, you'll only get a match in about 30% of the cases.

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • January 31, 1988
      • 43193

      #3
      Re: GM nuts and bolts numbers?

      Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
      Dale -- there's no comprehensive listing of the spec's for each part # in the AIM's, to my knowledge, but in the big P&A Chevrolet catalogs, Gr 8.900, Standard Parts Section, you sometimes get lucky and the part # matches the AIM, and then you'll get the grade, length, bolt dia. and threads per inch. Same applies to nuts, lock washers retainer clips and springs, cotter pins, , etc.

      These numbers changed often, so you're best to have the P&A30 of 1965 for the '65 AIM (for example). Even so, you'll only get a match in about 30% of the cases.
      Wayne and Dale-----

      I agree; there's no comprehensive listing of the fasteners in any reference that's generally available. General Motors did once publish specs for fasteners in a multi-volume set that was intended for use by suppliers. It's an invaluable reference but they're almost impossible to find. Even with these, of the one I've seen many of the later series of fasteners (and, by "later", I'm referring to a lot of the fasteners used from the late 60's onward) are not included. There may be later editions that did include them, but I've not seen any of those.

      Another place where you will sometimes find at least the size characteristics of a particular fastener is in the ILLUSTRATION section of the P&A Catalog, particularly later editions of the catalogs. If a fastener is shown in the "blow-up" drawing and identified by a reference number, the size of the fastener will often be shown in the table attached to the illustration. It won't show finish and it usually will not identify material grade, but it will often show the size.
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Dale C.
        Expired
        • October 31, 1999
        • 844

        #4
        Re: GM nuts and bolts numbers?

        Paragon makes a nice bolt / head guide that gives the size, marking, and material-finish and even references a use component but no reference to a specific GM part #.

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        • Alan D.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • December 31, 2004
          • 2027

          #5
          Re: GM nuts and bolts numbers?

          Dale,
          There are some paper bond documents which have a description of some part numbers referenced back to the AIM. Not all but a lot of nuts/bolts. These were produced by
          COUNTRY CORVETTES INC. 913-886-7531

          RR 1 BOX 159
          NORTONVILLE, KS 66060



          I believe the contact person was Joe Malik however the company & phone listing are gone along with Joe from that area. If you find a source please post.

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          • Richard M.
            Super Moderator
            • August 31, 1988
            • 11302

            #6
            Re: GM nuts and bolts numbers?

            Here's an old post of mine which has scans from the 1929-1959 P&A Catalog. Some hardware may apply to C3's also. When I posted this it was the old TDB website and the new TDB website converted the links and uploaded to our server. Unfortunately they lost the hard-links to zoom & download. Those links are relisted at the bottom here.

            Just remember these were service replacements and not necessarily identical to what was used in production of the era. Sizes may be relevant but not guaranteed.
            Rich



            Direct links to pages to zoom and/or download:
            http://home.comcast.net/~richmz/onlinestorage/parts/corvettehardware/P2250002.JPG
            http://home.comcast.net/~richmz/onlinestorage/parts/corvettehardware/hdwe1.JPG
            http://home.comcast.net/~richmz/onlinestorage/parts/corvettehardware/hdwe2.JPG
            http://home.comcast.net/~richmz/onlinestorage/parts/corvettehardware/hdwe3.JPG
            http://home.comcast.net/~richmz/onlinestorage/parts/corvettehardware/hdwe4.JPG
            http://home.comcast.net/~richmz/onlinestorage/parts/corvettehardware/hdwe5.JPG
            http://home.comcast.net/~richmz/onlinestorage/parts/corvettehardware/hdwe6.JPG
            Last edited by Richard M.; December 12, 2009, 05:25 AM.

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            • Loren L.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • April 30, 1976
              • 4104

              #7
              Re: GM nuts and bolts numbers?

              How about a "Standard Parts Catalog", P & A 24, dated November 1971?

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              • Dale C.
                Expired
                • October 31, 1999
                • 844

                #8
                Re: GM nuts and bolts numbers?

                Rich
                Thanks. That will help. I'll copy those pages. Got anything on rivets?
                Dale

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                • Wayne M.
                  Expired
                  • February 29, 1980
                  • 6414

                  #9
                  Re: GM nuts and bolts numbers?

                  Originally posted by Alan Drake (43261)
                  .....some paper bond documents which have a description of some part numbers referenced back to the AIM. Not all but a lot of nuts/bolts. These were produced by
                  COUNTRY CORVETTES INC. 913-886-7531, RR 1 BOX 159, NORTONVILLE, KS 66060. I believe the contact person was Joe Malik however the company & phone listing are gone along with Joe from that area. If you find a source please post.
                  Alan, now there's a name I recognize from back in the '80s. I phoned Joe Malicke back on 19th Oct 1985; home (913) 886-8861; shop (913) 866-7531. Heard from Raymond Goyenchea via Noland Adams, that Joe had a '67 L88 tanker. My next visit down his way, I dropped by the shop, but he wouldn't show me the car, even though it was in the same building.

                  99% chance those phone #s wouldn't work today.

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • January 31, 1988
                    • 43193

                    #10
                    Re: GM nuts and bolts numbers?

                    Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
                    Alan, now there's a name I recognize from back in the '80s. I phoned Joe Malicke back on 19th Oct 1985; home (913) 886-8861; shop (913) 866-7531. Heard from Raymond Goyenchea via Noland Adams, that Joe had a '67 L88 tanker. My next visit down his way, I dropped by the shop, but he wouldn't show me the car, even though it was in the same building.

                    99% chance those phone #s wouldn't work today.
                    Wayne-----


                    They might work, but they won't get one through to Country Corvettes or Joe Malicke. I believe they're long gone. Present whereabouts unknown.

                    Here's the cover of the last catalog I have for them dated 1996.

                    I think the 1968 L-88 on the cover of this catalog is the same one they had judged at the NCRS Annual Convention in Bend, OR about 1989. The engine stamp pad was a "grind out" and the judges wouldn't accept it as original, so the car did not get a Top Flight. To say the least, the Country Corvette "crew" was not happy about it.
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                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Richard M.
                      Super Moderator
                      • August 31, 1988
                      • 11302

                      #11
                      Re: GM nuts and bolts numbers?

                      Dale...I'll check when I get out to the shop later today.....Rich

                      p.s. Just remembered something. Recently helped a friend restoring his 65 fuelie coupe for the upcoming Winter Meet. I was his "rivet" backup man. We installed about 75 aluminum rivets in the body for seat support plates, reinforcements, seatbelt plates, etc. I think he used a vendor catalog as a reference for sizes. I think it was either LIC(Long Island Corvette) or Dr. Rebuild's . Not sure. It had the gm part# and showed the length of the rivets. May be similar help?
                      Last edited by Richard M.; December 13, 2009, 06:14 AM.

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                      • Dennis C.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • June 30, 2002
                        • 884

                        #12
                        Re: GM nuts and bolts numbers?

                        I don't remember how I came by this, it might have been from the archives.

                        Dennis
                        Attached Files

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                        • Bill L.
                          Expired
                          • January 31, 2004
                          • 1403

                          #13
                          Re: GM nuts and bolts numbers?

                          There is a company out of Winchester, VA called AMK. They have a cross reference in the back for any bolt, nut, washer etc that they may reproduce. I have had some luck there. You can view their catalog on line. I believe their site is www.amkproducts.com. If not, they come up on google.


                          Bill

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                          • Gary C.
                            Administrator
                            • October 1, 1982
                            • 17548

                            #14
                            Re: GM nuts and bolts numbers?

                            Bill, appreciate the AMK info. Been looking for a source for C1 link bar nut #3654642 5/16-24 9/16" wrench size .325 tall and seems they have it. All the vendors include a standard 5/16-24 1/2" wrench size nut on their sway bar kits. Thanks, Gary....
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                            • Dick W.
                              Former NCRS Director Region IV
                              • June 30, 1985
                              • 10483

                              #15
                              Re: GM nuts and bolts numbers?

                              Richard Fortier is a great source for fasteners. His ad can be find in the Driveline
                              Dick Whittington

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