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  • Edward J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 15, 2008
    • 6942

    72 Exhuast Blackout

    Ive done some research, I know the bottom side of muffler is blacked out along with the sides closest to the rear qtrs. panels. my question is do the pipes receive any blackout at the rear of muffler and the pipe under axle? Im about to install the gardner system on my small block, theres only one try to get this right.

    If anyone has any picks of a car thats original or thats been judged to be correct that would help. thanks Ed
    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.
  • Bill C.
    Expired
    • July 15, 2007
    • 904

    #2
    Re: 72 Exhuast Blackout




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    • Edward J.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • September 15, 2008
      • 6942

      #3
      Re: 72 Exhuast Blackout

      Bill, thanks for those pic.s there exactly what I needed.
      New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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      • Patrick H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1989
        • 11643

        #4
        Re: 72 Exhuast Blackout

        Note that those are service replacement pipes, not factory-installed originals. The blackout on the pipes and mufflers shown "may" differ from what was on the originals.

        Patrick
        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
        71 "deer modified" coupe
        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
        2008 coupe
        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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        • Bill C.
          Expired
          • July 15, 2007
          • 904

          #5
          Re: 72 Exhuast Blackout

          Patrick,

          When I purchsed the very early "W" mufflers that are on the car, they came with the blackout already on them.

          I did not apply it at all.

          It was very drippy and had runs down the side etc...

          There is not blackout on the pipes - the few black spots are where the coating (anti-rust solutiuon) burned as the pipes got old. They had some kind of yellow-ish thick coating - kind of like cosmoleen (spelling way off here!).

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          • Patrick H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • December 1, 1989
            • 11643

            #6
            Re: 72 Exhuast Blackout

            Originally posted by Bill Chamberlain (47576)
            Patrick,

            When I purchsed the very early "W" mufflers that are on the car, they came with the blackout already on them.

            I did not apply it at all.

            It was very drippy and had runs down the side etc...

            There is not blackout on the pipes - the few black spots are where the coating (anti-rust solutiuon) burned as the pipes got old. They had some kind of yellow-ish thick coating - kind of like cosmoleen (spelling way off here!).
            Bill,

            I don't doubt that the black that was on them was preapplied. However, if I recall correctly the replacement mufflers even came from a different Walker factory building than the originals. So, no guarantee that the black is the same as original application.

            Patrick
            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
            71 "deer modified" coupe
            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
            2008 coupe
            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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            • Edward J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • September 15, 2008
              • 6942

              #7
              Re: 72 Exhuast Blackout

              Patrick, Bill -I looked at some pictures of Terrys Mc. car they appear to be not far off from Bills car maybe a few runs in the paint at the tail pipe area, since this Blackout I will be doing is not the factory applied, I will try and copy this best as possiable, my concern was not to apply to the piping if the factry did not in front of the muffler
              New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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              • Mike G.
                Expired
                • July 31, 2002
                • 709

                #8
                Re: 72 Exhuast Blackout

                i saw bills car in kissimmee. great car! i have several pics of that car

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                • Mike G.
                  Expired
                  • July 31, 2002
                  • 709

                  #9
                  Re: 72 Exhuast Blackout

                  here is a pic of a 3500 mile 71 i took at a ncrs show in chattanooga. dont know if it helps but here it is
                  Attached Files

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                  • Edward J.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • September 15, 2008
                    • 6942

                    #10
                    Re: 72 Exhuast Blackout

                    Mike, thanks for the pic. this helps.this weekend I'll be installing my system and will do the black out on mufflers.
                    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                    • Don L.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • August 31, 2005
                      • 1005

                      #11
                      Re: 72 Exhuast Blackout

                      I'm in line to do my exhaust system right behind Edward. I've been following this thread with interest and notice that in both Bill's and Mike's pics, the forward-facing ends of the mufflers appear to be unpainted, however, the rear ends, including pipe and hanging bracket appear to be completely included in the blackout. Am I seeing it right? Also, is there a recommendation of what blackout material (paint) is best?
                      Don Lowe
                      NCRS #44382
                      Carolinas Chapter

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                      • Terry B.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • August 31, 1999
                        • 607

                        #12
                        Re: 72 Exhuast Blackout

                        I have heard that the black out was applied with a mitton, not by spray. Not sure if this is correct. I don't recall that the judging manual addresses application. If it is correct, could it be because the mufflers were on the car when the black out process took place? My application would be on an early '68.
                        Terry Buchanan

                        Webmaster / Secretary - Heart of Ohio Chapter www.ncrs.org/hoo

                        Corvettes Owned:
                        1977 Coupe
                        1968 Convertible 427/390 (L-36) Chapter Top Flight 2007, Regional Top Flight 2010, National Top Flight 2011
                        2003 Electron Blue Coupe
                        2019 Torch Red Grand Sport Coupe

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                        • Patrick H.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • December 1, 1989
                          • 11643

                          #13
                          Re: 72 Exhuast Blackout

                          As I understand it, the mufflers (with the pipes welded on) were painted while hanging. As I stated above, I would not use these non-assembly line mufflers to determine how the originals were painted. The 3000 mile car that ProTeam owns (referenced in this thread) still has factory mufflers.

                          The best reference I can think of is an article by Bob Cook that was in the Restorer several years ago. He described the paint job and also had good photos. I can't recall the exact date of the issue, though.

                          Below are my mufflers. I did the ones on the 72 I'm working on a bit differently only because I added more paint. I did paint the front and back surfaces as well as the underneath based on the few originals I've seen. I would not deduct ( as a chassis judge) for variations in the paint job. I'm sure that the Walker plant had plenty of variation.

                          Patrick



                          Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                          71 "deer modified" coupe
                          72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                          2008 coupe
                          Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                          • John H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • December 1, 1997
                            • 16513

                            #14
                            Re: 72 Exhuast Blackout

                            Originally posted by Terry Buchanan (32872)
                            I have heard that the black out was applied with a mitton, not by spray.
                            Terry -

                            "Mitting" is a myth - never happened.

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                            • Patrick H.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • December 1, 1989
                              • 11643

                              #15
                              Re: 72 Exhuast Blackout

                              I took pics today of the orange 72 I'm working on:










                              Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                              71 "deer modified" coupe
                              72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                              2008 coupe
                              Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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