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  • Dennis S.
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    • April 1, 2004
    • 228

    New front wheel bearings

    Decided to change my front wheel bearings during the restoration. Installed new Federal Mogul inner and outer races in the hubs. Packed the new wheel bearings, installed the inners and tapped in the new seals. Can't seem to get the new inner bearings to go over the spindles. The old bearings still easily go back on and off. Both old and new mic at 1.375 so what am I doing wrong? Or should I just try forcing them on with the washer and nut?
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43221

    #2
    Re: New front wheel bearings

    Originally posted by Dennis Stubee (41797)
    Decided to change my front wheel bearings during the restoration. Installed new Federal Mogul inner and outer races in the hubs. Packed the new wheel bearings, installed the inners and tapped in the new seals. Can't seem to get the new inner bearings to go over the spindles. The old bearings still easily go back on and off. Both old and new mic at 1.375 so what am I doing wrong? Or should I just try forcing them on with the washer and nut?
    Dennis-----


    Check the new bearings for any "burrs" or "upset" metal. I've never seen this but it's the only thing I can think of tht would account for your problem. Also, recheck the ID of the bearing inner race AT SEVERAL POINTS of the circumference. If the bearings, old and new, measure exactly the same ID, I cannot otherwise understand why the new bearings won't slide onto the spindle.

    By the way, what is stamped on the new bearing races?
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Wayne W.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 30, 1982
      • 3605

      #3
      Re: New front wheel bearings

      Just lately, I have been seeing this same thing on a couple. I just used another bearing.

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      • Dennis S.
        Expired
        • April 1, 2004
        • 228

        #4
        Re: New front wheel bearings

        The Federal Mogul bearings were made in Mexico. Tried a set today labeled "Parts Depot" that were made in China. Same problem. Just ordered a set from GM today, supposedly Timkin. Wonder where they were made? Will let you know how they fit. May have to get aggressive with some 600 grit on either the spindles, the inner bearing races, or both. I've never had this problem before either.

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43221

          #5
          Re: New front wheel bearings

          Originally posted by Dennis Stubee (41797)
          Just ordered a set from GM today, supposedly Timkin. Wonder where they were made?
          Dennis----


          Many of the Timken bearings primarily used for older applications are made in Brazil.

          Look for any bearing made in Japan. Those are usually the absolutely best bearings to be found anywhere in the world. They're made like a Rolex watch.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Gary R.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • April 1, 1989
            • 1798

            #6
            Re: New front wheel bearings

            I have the USA Timkens if you need them. All the bearings "Should" be the same size. If your originals fit I would not start dressing the od of the spindle and make it undersize.

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43221

              #7
              Re: New front wheel bearings

              Originally posted by Gary Ramadei (14833)
              If your originals fit I would not start dressing the end of the spindle and make it undersize.
              Gary-----


              I TOTALLY agree.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Dennis C.
                Very Frequent User
                • June 30, 2002
                • 884

                #8
                Re: New front wheel bearings

                Below is the contact information from a vendor selling bearings and seals that I spoke to at the PA show. He claims to have American bearings for a wide assortment of vehicles. I haven't purchased from him yet, but might be worth checking out. I did speak to him about front and rear bearings for my '61 which he claims to have.

                OlCar Bearing Company
                910-693-3324

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                • Paul J.
                  Expired
                  • September 9, 2008
                  • 2091

                  #9
                  Re: New front wheel bearings

                  Dennis:

                  The bearings should fit and I agree with Gary and Joe. Don't dress the spindles if the old bearings fit. If the old bearings have no signs of burning and are not grooved, you could always reuse them and worry about this problem later. Cleaning and repacking the old bearings certainly would not detract from your restoration.

                  Paul

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                  • Dennis S.
                    Expired
                    • April 1, 2004
                    • 228

                    #10
                    Re: New front wheel bearings

                    Thanks guys. The new Timkens fit perfect. Just need to knock the Federal Mogul races out of the hubs and put in the matching Timkens.

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • February 1, 1988
                      • 43221

                      #11
                      Re: New front wheel bearings

                      Originally posted by Dennis Stubee (41797)
                      Thanks guys. The new Timkens fit perfect. Just need to knock the Federal Mogul races out of the hubs and put in the matching Timkens.
                      Dennis-----


                      Where are the Timken bearings you got manufactured?
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Dennis S.
                        Expired
                        • April 1, 2004
                        • 228

                        #12
                        Re: New front wheel bearings

                        Joe

                        Can't tell from the boxes...it doesn't say anywhere. I neglected to look the bearings over for any "Made in" markings before installing. However, they look like "mucho" better quality than the others.

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