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  • Scott S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 11, 2009
    • 1961

    Need help identifying possible 1967 wiper motor (pictures)

    Can anyone here help me to identify this wiper motor? It came off of a '67 coupe, but I was told it was incorrect.

    Thanks very much,

    Scott
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  • Stephen L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 1984
    • 3156

    #2
    Re: Need help identifying possible 1967 wiper motor (pictures)

    It looks just like the one on my 67, except mine is a little cleaner.....

    What exactly is supposedly wrong with the one you have to make it incorrect???

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    • Wayne M.
      Expired
      • March 1, 1980
      • 6414

      #3
      Re: Need help identifying possible 1967 wiper motor (pictures)

      Scott -- can you post a few of the numbers on the motor bearing end (passenger side) On my late '65 I found 5044902 stamped (if I'm reading it correctly, backwards in a mirror) also a raised cast number 14 on the base (barrel) of the motor (facing forward). I'm not saying these are correct, but if you posted yours it would give us a start.

      Seem to remember, from years ago, that there were 3 variations in the C2 era, with '65-7 being the same.

      I'd have to remove the top distrib. shielding from my other '65 to read these numbers. ------ OK, just the other '65; early 014xx VIN, same 5044x02 (x could be 6, 8 or 9 -- to hard to read small numbers when installed). This one has a "13" cast on the motor body barrel [probably a mold number].
      Last edited by Wayne M.; November 8, 2009, 12:52 PM. Reason: added 2nd car

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      • William C.
        NCRS Past President
        • May 31, 1975
        • 6037

        #4
        Re: Need help identifying possible 1967 wiper motor (pictures)

        Washer pump valve system is '63 style, not a good sign...
        Bill Clupper #618

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        • Scott S.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • September 11, 2009
          • 1961

          #5
          Re: Need help identifying possible 1967 wiper motor (pictures)

          Originally posted by Stephen Lavigne (7553)
          It looks just like the one on my 67, except mine is a little cleaner.....
          Originally posted by Stephen Lavigne (7553)
          What exactly is supposedly wrong with the one you have to make it incorrect???

          I’m not exactly sure. Several months ago, before I became a member of this forum, I sent pictures of the wiper motor to one of the vendors to have it restored. It was explained to me that the wiper motor was from another GM car (not a Corvette), but they would take it in trade for a correct wiper motor properly restored.

          I received a wiper motor that appears almost the same as the one I sent in (see attached pictures below).


          If it’s possible to tell from the pictures of the old one (in my first post), I would like to learn exactly what the wiper motor was that had been on the car all those years.
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          Last edited by Scott S.; November 8, 2009, 06:35 PM. Reason: clarification

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          • Scott S.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • September 11, 2009
            • 1961

            #6
            Re: Need help identifying possible 1967 wiper motor (pictures)

            Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
            Scott -- can you post a few of the numbers on the motor bearing end (passenger side) On my late '65 I found 5044902 stamped (if I'm reading it correctly, backwards in a mirror) also a raised cast number 14 on the base (barrel) of the motor (facing forward). I'm not saying these are correct, but if you posted yours it would give us a start.
            [quote=Wayne Midkiff (3437);451009]


            Sorry Wayne, those are the best pictures I have within easy reach. I should have more pictures of it from other angles on my hard drive, but I only labeled the ones I intended to send, the others are named in whatever code the camera gives them. I will try to find the other pictures, but it will take some time.
            Last edited by Scott S.; November 8, 2009, 02:36 PM.

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            • Scott S.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • September 11, 2009
              • 1961

              #7
              Re: Need help identifying possible 1967 wiper motor (pictures)

              Originally posted by William Clupper (618)
              Washer pump valve system is '63 style, not a good sign...



              I'm just trying to understand what is what. I would like to figure out exactly what it is that I sent in as a trade-in, since it appears very similar to the replacement motor I received.
              Last edited by Scott S.; November 8, 2009, 06:34 PM.

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              • Stephen L.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • May 31, 1984
                • 3156

                #8
                Re: Need help identifying possible 1967 wiper motor (pictures)

                Scott,
                Photos of my original 67 wiper motor...

                Looks the same to me.
                Attached Files

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                • Stephen L.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • May 31, 1984
                  • 3156

                  #9
                  Re: Need help identifying possible 1967 wiper motor (pictures)

                  Scott,

                  Another photo of restored and installed wiper motor (same motor as in previous post)
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                  • Scott S.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • September 11, 2009
                    • 1961

                    #10
                    Re: Need help identifying possible 1967 wiper motor (pictures)

                    Originally posted by Stephen Lavigne (7553)
                    Scott,
                    Photos of my original 67 wiper motor...

                    Looks the same to me.
                    After examining all of the pictures closely, it looks like your restored wiper motor and the restored replacement motor I received are the same. The only difference I have noticed between the un-restored motor (original post) that came off my car and the replacement motor can be seen in a comparison of the 3rd picture in my original post and the 3rd picture in post #5.





                    Thank you very much for taking the time to post these pictures Stephen, I really appreciate it,

                    Scott

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                    • Stephen L.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • May 31, 1984
                      • 3156

                      #11
                      Re: Need help identifying possible 1967 wiper motor (pictures)

                      I agree. The difference is as circled for 67 and possibly earlier models.

                      I circled the area for clarity for other forum members who are trying to follow this thread.....on the right is your original posting probably from an early C2
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                      • Scott S.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • September 11, 2009
                        • 1961

                        #12
                        Re: Need help identifying possible 1967 wiper motor (pictures)

                        Originally posted by William Clupper (618)
                        Washer pump valve system is '63 style, not a good sign...
                        Bill, could you please explain which part of the wiper motor you are referring to? I'm not familiar enough with these motors to spot the valve system distinction you noticed in the photos.

                        Also, was the valve system you refer to exclusive to 1963, and is there any way to be certain this is a Corvette wiper motor?

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                        • Joe R.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • July 31, 1976
                          • 4550

                          #13
                          Re: Need help identifying possible 1967 wiper motor (pictures)

                          Scott,

                          That is a 1963 passenger car wiper motor. It is a two speed motor but the casting is wrong for a Corvette. It has a single stage pump head (63 only) and the upper leg (casting) has a rib in the center. The Corvettes are hollow as the other pictures show.

                          It will work on any Corvette 63-67 but in no way is correct.

                          JR

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                          • Michael M.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • February 1, 1993
                            • 604

                            #14
                            Re: Need help identifying possible 1967 wiper motor (pictures)

                            Another way to check to see if this pump is correct for your year is to check the number embossed on the face of the main body. A 13 or 14 is correct for 1966-67. A number 15 or 16 indicates a earlier year 1963-64.
                            Hope this helps.

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                            • Jack H.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • April 1, 1990
                              • 9906

                              #15
                              Re: Need help identifying possible 1967 wiper motor (pictures)

                              The valve assy on the washer pump was a single piece consisting of inlet/outlet nipples and umbrellas valves for '63 AND '64 that was made by Rochester. For '65-67, the valve assy changed to a two-piece system made by Trico.

                              One piece was simply the inlet/outlet nipple assy. The second component was a flat plastic plate containing the umbrella valves. Both valve assy's are a 'challenge' to find in NOS or near-NOS condition.

                              The one-piece Rochester assy has LONG been discontinued and used originals taken from scrap yard cars of the era are typically SO aged, discolored, brittle that they seldom work.

                              The two-piece Trico valve assy IS what's provided by most auto parts stores, BUT modern service replacements differ from factory originals in terms of the plastic material they're made from. What you see today is a two piece valve that's either black or STARK RAVING white in color made from nylon based material. Factory original two piece valve assys were slightly off-white (beige) in color and they tend to turn yellow/brown with age (exposure to heat and UV)...

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