PF141 oil Filter

[John D.]

Changed the oil in my 67 today and bought an AC Delco PF141 oil filter from my local parts warehouse. The filter case is plastic and the end caps are thick cardboard. Wonder who makes these for AC Delco now. it looks like a Fram to me. Not sure when it changed to this design as I was using the stash of metal filters I bought years ago....

[Joe L.]

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Changed the oil in my 67 today and bought an AC Delco PF141 oil filter from my local parts warehouse. The filter case is plastic and the end caps are thick cardboard. Wonder who makes these for AC Delco now. it looks like a Fram to me. Not sure when it changed to this design as I was using the stash of metal filters I bought years ago....

John----

Check the filter or the box it was supplied in for a "Made in India" stamping or label. I've noticed that India seems to be a major country-of-origin for these cartridge-type filter elements for other applications.

In any event, AC-Delco filters sure aren't what they used to be. With GM and DELPHI out of the filter manufacturing business, all filters are "outsourced" to other manufacturers. I don't think it's even a single manufacturer---different filter models are manufactured by different companies. I believe that Champion Labs is one of the major ones, though. Champion makes filters for LOTS of other brands. The thing I don't know, though, is if they make them all the same. Purolator is another major manufacturer for filters sold under other brand names.

Also, the plastic "core" is getting to be pretty widespread across all the filter manufacturers. They say it's better. I don't think so, though. I like steel cores. If you look at the innards of premium filters (like Mobil 1 which is manufactured by Champion labs or K&N) you will usually still find a steel core. I wonder why they use the steel cores here if the plastic ones are better? Guess who started this plastic "core" thing? Porsche.

These days, I think one's best shot at a quality, standard oil filter is Wix.

I think you might find the Wix 51143 more to your liking. See it here:

http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=51143

[Larry M.]

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John:

I agree with you. I changed over to the NAPA Gold #1143 filter to replace the PF-141. This NAPA Gold filter is made by WIX in the USA. Metal can......good and strong. I have been using NAPA Gold/WIX for about 4 years now without issue.

Baldwin is another good brand.....but a little harder to find. You can check on-line for a nearby distributor and the conversion part number. But NAPA stores are just about everywhere.

Larry

[Brian M.]

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I have a couple cases pf PF-141 Made in Mexico. Cardboard surround paper endcaps.

[Paul H.]

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Car Quest #85143 is made by Wix. I've been using them for a long time. I don't think anyone is inspecting inside the cannisters

[Jerry B.]

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Hello Gents, Would There Be A Problem Using An Original PF141 Filter Made In The Sixties That Was Properly Stored.

[Terry M.]

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I wouldn't think so, but more modern filter materials are more efficient.

[Duke W.]

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www.baldwinfilter.com

...just cross the PF-141 and buy a supply from a local parts store that caters to the medium/HD truck trade, which is their primary market.

There is still a lot of equipment out there that uses this old cartridge type filter, and Baldwin is a quality name in the medium/HD truck and commercial vehicle business.

Too bad they don't make an equivalent the the A165C air filter.

Duke

[Brian M.]

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I wouldn't trust it. JMHO use it as a conversation piece.

Hello Gents, Would There Be A Problem Using An Original PF141 Filter Made In The Sixties That Was Properly Stored.

[Harry S.]

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Duke, take a peek....... this is a new one.

[Duke W.]

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Opps! I think I meant the A353C - the A/C cellulose replacement for the OE foam filter. I don't recommend using the foam filter (other than judging) because it doesn't filter very well.

At 115K miles my '63 340 HP had virtually no measureable wear other than .003-.005" taper in the cylinders, which I attribute to that lousy filter.

Duke

[Stuart F.]

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Here in Florida, I found the only way to find a dealer/parts house selling actual WIX filters was to check their web site. Turned out to be an old store close by to me that speciallizes in wholesale sales to Truck service centers. They turned out to be a gold mine of NOS parts and aftermarket stuff not handled by the chain auto parts houses. I bought a case of catridge filters as well as an old model of spin ons that will work with an old adapter kit I have. They sold them to me for whole sale prices too, never asked me for any I.D.

Stu Fox

[Dick W.]

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Here in Florida, I found the only way to find a dealer/parts house selling actual WIX filters was to check their web site. Turned out to be an old store close by to me that speciallizes in wholesale sales to Truck service centers. They turned out to be a gold mine of NOS parts and aftermarket stuff not handled by the chain auto parts houses. I bought a case of catridge filters as well as an old model of spin ons that will work with an old adapter kit I have. They sold them to me for whole sale prices too, never asked me for any I.D.

Stu Fox

Carquest and NAPA filters are also private label Wix filters.

[Wayne M.]

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Opps! I think I meant the A353C - the A/C cellulose replacement for the OE foam filter. I don't recommend using the (A165C) foam filter (other than judging) because it doesn't filter very well....

My A165C (purchased NIB in the '80s, then used as intended) is now a pile of black dust.

Speaking of air filters, check out this USED A212CW on eBay .. buy-it-now for $ 1295.

[Harry S.]

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I agree with Duke, A165C Judging only, but it is a very nice item to have.