65 AC Dash Modification

[Francis F.]

Re: 65 AC Dash Modification

OK now you got me confused,but my saving
grace is that I have a" 66" a/c coupe,and I can say
for a fact that it has a "LA" sticker on the cluster.
Francis

[Michael M.]

Re: 65 AC Dash Modification

OK now you got me confused,but my saving
grace is that I have a" 66" a/c coupe,and I can say
for a fact that it has a "LA" sticker on the cluster.
Francis

LA, LB,LC,and LD I beleive is only the tach redline, Oil gage poundage option for the engine in the car. Now having said that I am probably wrong and 10 members will correct me but thats my story and I`m sticking to it.

[Francis F.]

Re: 65 AC Dash Modification

OK MIKE,
if you say so,I gotta believe ,and I just learned
somtin.(let's see if sticks)
Francis

[Jim S.]

Re: 65 AC Dash Modification

OK now you got me confused,but my saving
grace is that I have a" 66" a/c coupe,and I can say
for a fact that it has a "LA" sticker on the cluster.
Francis

Francis ,

Michael is right about that , or at least to the point that the letters have nothing to do with whether or not a car has A/C.

More importantly, Does your cluster have the cut out ?

I would bet it does, as Wayne knows his stuff. I even looked up AIM, UPC C60 Sheet E7 ,and Sure enough it says to cut it out . I am now convinced I must have swapped backing plates some time ago when I first got both of these and was playing around with them. As I said earlier ,I never noticed the difference until this thread came up .So I probably did'nt think it mattered.

JIm

[Wayne M.]

Re: 65 AC Dash Modification

.....The LA is from a known 66 A/C car I bought from a friend ,and the LD is from God knows where... .

Jim --- could you do me (and others on the DB) a favour and tell us what the part numbers are on the LD sticker on the cluster. The pic is of the back of my 396. The tach number (hard to read) is 6412223-W.

With '65s, I am familiar with LA (5500 redline tach; 60 psi oil); LB (in pic) (6500 redline, 80 psi oil -- all solid lifter engines); and LC ( L79, 350 hp, 6000 redline, 60 psi oil).

LD is probably a '66 or '67 combo; it got kinda complicated with U15 speed warning.

Thanks

[Jim S.]

Re: 65 AC Dash Modification

Jim --- could you do me (and others on the DB) a favour and tell us what the part numbers are on the LD sticker on the cluster. The pic is of the back of my 396. The tach number (hard to read) is 6412223-W.

With '65s, I am familiar with LA (5500 redline tach; 60 psi oil); LB (in pic) (6500 redline, 80 psi oil -- all solid lifter engines); and LC ( L79, 350 hp, 6000 redline, 60 psi oil).

LD is probably a '66 or '67 combo; it got kinda complicated with U15 speed warning.

Thanks

Wayne ,

I would be happy to Assist .

LD:
Cluster :6457983
Speedo: 6455367 W
Tach: 6412222 W
AC---- Made in the USA

I hope this helps,

JIm

[Wayne M.]

Re: 65 AC Dash Modification

..... happy to Assist .

LD:
Cluster :6457983
Speedo: 6455367 W
Tach: 6412222 W
AC---- Made in the USA

Jim -- thanks for the numbers. Looks like it has the 6000 redline tach ('65-7) and (not) the speedwarning speedo ('67 only). Been trying to figure out the cluster number on the tag, and to tie it to the speedo / tach / oil pressure / engine temp. In the parts books it's broken down into the components (body, housing, retainer, instruments, but at St.Louis, it was already a sub-assembly, therefore not much info in the AIM to differentiate between the various horsepower engines using just the cluster number.

I can see some reasons for the cluster part # changing from '65-7 (ie. water temp color zones, holes in body dropped after '65 (no rear comp't blower; '67 kickpanel controls moved to center console (except air on one side (RH)?), and probably a few other changes.

[Jim S.]

Re: 65 AC Dash Modification

Wayne,

Sorry about that , but you did not ask for those details so I didn't give them to you . Duh.

It has a 5500 redline , .and an 80 psi oil gauge . I was assuming a big block "something"

Let me know what you come up with. As I said it was given to me ,so I have no idea .

Jim

[Wayne M.]

Re: 65 AC Dash Modification

...Sorry about that , but you did not ask for those details so I didn't give them to you . Duh.

Jim, nor did I expect them, as I wanted to identify the speedo and tach from the GM parts book, according to the part numbers on the label.

It has a 5500 redline , .and an 80 psi oil gauge . I was assuming a big block "something"

So (per the sticker) the tach has definitely been chamged from a 6000
rpm redline ( 6412222-W). Or, as you said, the back could have been off another cluster. The speedo 6455367 is typical '65-7 with no speed warning. If a '67 w/U15, it would show 6480910; but then the sticker would show different big code letters. The 80 lb oil also has been changed, as the 6000 redline engines never (IMO) used anything but a 60 lb.

Dug a little deeper in my '65 AIM and see that the standard cluster (5500 redline w/60lb oil) is assembly # 6455363 [UPC 12, Sht B5]. And from UPC L84, sht 2, the cluster assy is # 6455364 (which matches my LB sticker for solid lifter small blocks and the 396, in 1965).

So I'm thinking that your cluster # 6457983 might be off a '66 or '67 L79 (350hp). Unfortunately, in the '65 AIM, there is no sheet for L79 (only indirect reference in affected options like C60 or N40), so the cluster number is not available. Maybe someone with the other AIMs could quote what is shown for the L79 cluster.

[Francis F.]

Re: 65 AC Dash Modification

Francis ,

Michael is right about that , or at least to the point that the letters have nothing to do with whether or not a car has A/C.

More importantly, Does your cluster have the cut out ?

I would bet it does, as Wayne knows his stuff. I even looked up AIM, UPC C60 Sheet E7 ,and Sure enough it says to cut it out . I am now convinced I must have swapped backing plates some time ago when I first got both of these and was playing around with them. As I said earlier ,I never noticed the difference until this thread came up .So I probably did'nt think it mattered.

JIm

Jim,
yes mine has the cut out.

LA cluster #645782
SPEEDO 6455367-W
TACH 6412222-W
AC-made in USA

Francis
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[Jim S.]

Re: 65 AC Dash Modification

Jim,
yes mine has the cut out.

LA cluster #645782
SPEEDO 6455367-W
TACH 6412222-W
AC-made in USA

Francis
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Testing , one , two , three , Just trying to see how you post directly under the post you choose >

JIm

[Francis F.]

Re: 65 AC Dash Modification

Testing , one , two , three , Just trying to see how you post directly under the post you choose >

JIm

Jim,
you lost me on that last message ????
(testing 1,2,3.) can you elaborate on
your thought.
Francis