1970 Door Locks

[Mark Z.]

The JG says the driver door with key notches down should lock turning the key clockwise. Pass door locks counter clockwise. Would someone check their car to see if this is the case as mine is just the opposite. I have both doors apart thinking I mixed the locks up years ago but so far haven't been able to swap them to make them work as written.

[Kenneth T.]

Re: 1970 Door Locks

The JG says the driver door with key notches down should lock turning the key clockwise. Pass door locks counter clockwise. Would someone check their car to see if this is the case as mine is just the opposite. I have both doors apart thinking I mixed the locks up years ago but so far haven't been able to swap them to make them work as written.

Mark,

My '71 clockwise to unlock driver's side, counter clockwise for the passenger.

As I recall, it has been awhile, pulling the control rod up opens the door lock. It is the same for both sides, therefore the lock has to always pull the rod upward to unlock. The cylinders turn opposite to do this if the lever on the cylinders is facing the same direction, should be forward. Maybe your levers are opposed?

Ken

[Pat M.]

Re: 1970 Door Locks

The JG does say that, but the PV manual says just the opposite. And my 70, that passed PV, works as the PV manual states, i.e., driver's side door locks turning the key counter clockwise, passenger's side clockwise. Sounds like Ken's must work the same way, because he UNLOCKS his driver's side clockwise, so it must lock counter clockwise. Right?

[Dave S.]

Re: 1970 Door Locks

The JG says the driver door with key notches down should lock turning the key clockwise. Pass door locks counter clockwise. Would someone check their car to see if this is the case as mine is just the opposite. I have both doors apart thinking I mixed the locks up years ago but so far haven't been able to swap them to make them work as written.

Mark,
I do not have my 68/72 Operations manual handy but having done 3 PV's on 70/71 cars I recall that the Operations manual has a wording mistake. I've passed that on to the 70/72 team leader for investigation. I will post my comments on Monday.

[Pat M.]

Re: 1970 Door Locks

In fact, both the JG and PV manuals have errors on this issue. As mentioned, the JG has the locking procedure backwards.

The PV manual has the locking procedure right in the first paragraph (driver side turns counter clockwise, passenger side clockwise), but the next paragraph says "to lock the door ... turn the passenger's side door counter clockwise and the driver's side door clockwise". Obviously, this second paragraph should begin with "to UNLOCK ...".

[Mark Z.]

Re: 1970 Door Locks

Oh well, I got dinged at a chapter meet for the JG and looking at the levers I couldn't see how it could be done. I had to lube the window tracks anyway after 18 years so all is not lost. Thanks for the info.

[Robert E.]

Re: 1970 Door Locks

Can locks be interchanged accidentally so that the lock/unlock procedure be incorrect?

If so, how would one rate the level of difficulty in interchanging locks?

Would the glass and tracks need to be removed to complete this task?

Thanks in advance

Robert

[Kenneth T.]

Re: 1970 Door Locks

Robert,

The lock unlock procedure with the key is driver's door, key twists forward to lock and to the rear to unlock. The pass door is opposite, fwd to unlock and rear to lock. The cylinders are identical for both doors, the cam on the cyls should face forward to engage the control rods.

The reason they work opposite is the door locks move in the same direction for both doors to open and close, so on one side the fwd motion is pulling the rod backward where that same motion on the opposite side will move the rod forward. Easy huh

You do not have to remove the glass or track, oh no please

Ken

[Robert E.]

Re: 1970 Door Locks

Ken, Thanks for the english translation of the Operations Manual. One thing still bothers me though. Can the locks/levers be installed to operate reverse to what it's supposed too or was previous poster Mark Zaffuto dinged because the judges were confused by the wording in the manual?

Robert

[Kenneth T.]

Re: 1970 Door Locks

The cams that engage the control rods should face forward, if my memory serves me right. I am attaching a photo of the door from the service manual.

If the cam faces the rear, the control rod will not reach it unless someone went to great lengths to adjust it there. You mention a friend who's door's open the opposite; I remember someone else saying that, but I can't recall.
If I remember I will post it.

Ken

[Robert E.]

Re: 1970 Door Locks

Ken, It wasn't a friend, but a previous poster who stated he got dinged for his locks not operation as per the operations manual. Im in the process of straightening out a few odds and ends on my car prior to June's Fleetwood Farms Regional in London Ont and will check my locks when I get home tonight

I really appreciate your input

Robert

[Dave S.]

Re: 1970 Door Locks

As a well overdue response to my October, 2010 post, the Operations Manual has a wording error. On page 23, the second paragraph begins with "To lock". That should say "To unlock".

[Keith L.]

Re: 1970 Door Locks

Seems like a simple thing to be so confusing. Is it correct to say for both sides, counterclockwise locks and clockwise unlocks?

[Kenneth T.]

Re: 1970 Door Locks

Keith,

You are a poet. Brevity is the soul of wit.

Ken