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  • Christopher K.
    Very Frequent User
    • September 10, 2007
    • 311

    Vacuum Advance Part Number?

    I'm looking at an original '73 L82 4spd distributor, 1112150.
    The advance is a "524", shouldn't it be a "448"?

    Thanks for any help,
    Chris
    Chris

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  • Tom H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • December 1, 1993
    • 3440

    #2
    Re: Vacuum Advance Part Number?

    Chris:

    My application book shows the 448 as correct.
    Tom Hendricks
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    • William C.
      NCRS Past President
      • May 31, 1975
      • 6037

      #3
      Re: Vacuum Advance Part Number?

      Delco Remy Service manual calls for 448
      Bill Clupper #618

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      • Christopher K.
        Very Frequent User
        • September 10, 2007
        • 311

        #4
        Re: Vacuum Advance Part Number?

        Thanks guys,
        Does anyone know what a "524" is for?
        Joe L?

        Chris
        Chris

        '72 Lt-1 a/c Pewter Silver coupe Mason Dixon Chapter Top Flight 2016
        '73 L82 4 spd Dark Metallic Blue coupe Chapter Top Flight 2023

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43211

          #5
          Re: Vacuum Advance Part Number?

          Originally posted by Christopher Krieger (47844)
          Thanks guys,
          Does anyone know what a "524" is for?
          Joe L?

          Chris
          Chris----

          I can find no record of any vacuum control the last 3 digits of which are '524'. It's possible that one once existed of GM #1973524. If so, though, it was a PRODUCTION-only piece. Are you sure the number is '524'?
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • William C.
            NCRS Past President
            • May 31, 1975
            • 6037

            #6
            Re: Vacuum Advance Part Number?

            I'm with Joe, I looked at all the oem GM Vacuum cans in the 1963-77 timeframe and found no "524"
            Bill Clupper #618

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            • Christopher K.
              Very Frequent User
              • September 10, 2007
              • 311

              #7
              Re: Vacuum Advance Part Number?

              Thanks Joe and Bill (and Tom!),

              Seller rechecked numbers and says it's definitely 524.
              He pulled it from his original '73 L82 4spd, tag says 3 A 22.
              He said it looked like it "hasn't been messed with"

              Joe, is that 524 part number for a 15 degree vacuum advance, like the
              "448 15" ?

              Chris
              Chris

              '72 Lt-1 a/c Pewter Silver coupe Mason Dixon Chapter Top Flight 2016
              '73 L82 4 spd Dark Metallic Blue coupe Chapter Top Flight 2023

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43211

                #8
                Re: Vacuum Advance Part Number?

                Originally posted by Christopher Krieger (47844)
                Thanks Joe and Bill (and Tom!),

                Seller rechecked numbers and says it's definitely 524.
                He pulled it from his original '73 L82 4spd, tag says 3 A 22.
                He said it looked like it "hasn't been messed with"

                Joe, is that 524 part number for a 15 degree vacuum advance, like the
                "448 15" ?

                Chris
                Chris-----


                I don't have any information, at all, on the '524'. I don't even know if it actually existed, although the situation here is pretty good proof that it did exist. I just theorized that it MIGHT have existed since GM #1973523 and GM #1973525 were once distributor vacuum controls that did exist. So, it's very possible that there was once one "in between". However, if there was, it was never available as a SERVICE part and I have absolutely no information on it.

                As I mentioned, it is possible that it was a PRODUCTION-only piece that was used alternatively with the GM #1973448. In fact, if the distributor is of GM #1112150 and appears to be "un-messed with" and given that it's, apparently, a 15 degree vacuum control, then I strongly suspect this is what it is. I have no information to support that, though. It's just a hunch based upon what I have found. IF my hunch is correct, I would expect this control to have the same or virtually the same specs as the 1973448.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Christopher K.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • September 10, 2007
                  • 311

                  #9
                  Re: Vacuum Advance Part Number?

                  Thanks Joe, that's great info. If I end up getting it, I'll post a picture.

                  Chris
                  Chris

                  '72 Lt-1 a/c Pewter Silver coupe Mason Dixon Chapter Top Flight 2016
                  '73 L82 4 spd Dark Metallic Blue coupe Chapter Top Flight 2023

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                  • Christopher K.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • September 10, 2007
                    • 311

                    #10
                    Re: Vacuum Advance Part Number?

                    Well, the plot thickens. You just never know what's next...

                    Seller told me the only other numbers on the vac advance were CCW - So he was talking about the CAM and WEIGHT PLATE! (which looks correct to me)

                    I had him look at the "cone shaped vac advance" and he says it reads
                    437 15

                    In my parts book that is part #1973437 for a '71-'72 350 w/1112038-50.
                    That's a for an Lt-1 engine, I believe.

                    Any thoughts on this vac can. Could it have been put on a '73 L82 in production?

                    Thanks,
                    Chris
                    Chris

                    '72 Lt-1 a/c Pewter Silver coupe Mason Dixon Chapter Top Flight 2016
                    '73 L82 4 spd Dark Metallic Blue coupe Chapter Top Flight 2023

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                    • William C.
                      NCRS Past President
                      • May 31, 1975
                      • 6037

                      #11
                      Re: Vacuum Advance Part Number?

                      The vacuum advance was part of the emissions certification in 1973. The chances of an incorrect one leaving the plant, somewhere near zero.
                      Bill Clupper #618

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                      • Christopher K.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • September 10, 2007
                        • 311

                        #12
                        Re: Vacuum Advance Part Number?

                        Thanks Bill,

                        Anyone can put a tag on a distributor, I think I'll wait for one with ALL the correct numbers.

                        Chris
                        Chris

                        '72 Lt-1 a/c Pewter Silver coupe Mason Dixon Chapter Top Flight 2016
                        '73 L82 4 spd Dark Metallic Blue coupe Chapter Top Flight 2023

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                        • Wayne M.
                          Expired
                          • March 1, 1980
                          • 6414

                          #13
                          Re: Vacuum Advance Part Number?

                          Originally posted by Christopher Krieger (47844)
                          .... Seller told me the only other numbers on the vac advance were CCW - So he was talking about the CAM and WEIGHT PLATE! (which looks correct to me)

                          I had him look at the "cone shaped vac advance" and he says it reads
                          437 15

                          In my parts book that is part #1973437 for a '71-'72 350 w/1112038-50.
                          That's a for an Lt-1 engine, I believe...
                          Chris -- while you're waiting for "all" the numbers, your analysis seems correct to me (ie. the 437 can on the 2038 / 2050).

                          For example, I have a 1971 LT1 "2038"_0-J-3 date, also with the 437_15 can (no MS on the first line). So seller is reading the rotating weight plate, with "524_CCW" stamped (on top or bottom ? I've seen both locations). My "2038" weight plate is stamped "534" (no CCW) on top. Ask him to see if there's a stamped number on the shaft's autocam (ie. football). My "2038" is stamped '170W' on the underside (or sometimes the cams are stamped with 2 or 3 digits on top, or sometimes underlined).

                          So there's quite a few numbers to totally define a distrib. Would be nice if someone with a '73 "2150" could chime in with their numbers.

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                          • Christopher K.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • September 10, 2007
                            • 311

                            #14
                            Re: Vacuum Advance Part Number?

                            Thanks Wayne,
                            Great info

                            Chris
                            Chris

                            '72 Lt-1 a/c Pewter Silver coupe Mason Dixon Chapter Top Flight 2016
                            '73 L82 4 spd Dark Metallic Blue coupe Chapter Top Flight 2023

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