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  • Richard R.
    Expired
    • August 31, 1988
    • 98

    70 LS5 choke rod clip

    I have a 70 LS5 which has a choke rod clip that has what I call a "C" clip. On page 62 of the latest Judging Guide it shows a picture of a different configuration. The AIM clearly shows a "C" clip in the LS5 section. Sheet A3 item 14. My choke rod has a groove cut in it to accept this "C" clip.I know of 3 different 70 LS5's that are like this. If you look in the AIM at the small block configuration it shows the clip that is shown in the JG. Has anybody else had this problem? Maybe Joe or Terry can help out. Thanks Richard
  • Thad L.
    Expired
    • April 30, 1999
    • 168

    #2
    Re: 70 LS5 choke rod clip

    Richard, I have been looking for a pic of an origional choke rod clip of a 70 LS-5 for about 7 years! Somebody has to have a bowtie or survivor car.
    We need a pic! Q-jet---LS-5
    Thad

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    • Kenneth T.
      Very Frequent User
      • March 23, 2008
      • 631

      #3
      Re: 70 LS5 choke rod clip

      Originally posted by Richard Reed (13445)
      I have a 70 LS5 which has a choke rod clip that has what I call a "C" clip. On page 62 of the latest Judging Guide it shows a picture of a different configuration. The AIM clearly shows a "C" clip in the LS5 section. Sheet A3 item 14. My choke rod has a groove cut in it to accept this "C" clip.I know of 3 different 70 LS5's that are like this. If you look in the AIM at the small block configuration it shows the clip that is shown in the JG. Has anybody else had this problem? Maybe Joe or Terry can help out. Thanks Richard
      Could this be what you are looking for?

      Ken
      Attached Files

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      • Richard R.
        Expired
        • August 31, 1988
        • 98

        #4
        Re: 70 LS5 choke rod clip

        The assembly manual shows it as being a "C" clip but I agree a picture is worth a thousand words.

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        • Richard R.
          Expired
          • August 31, 1988
          • 98

          #5
          Re: 70 LS5 choke rod clip

          No ken the one I'm talking about actually looks like a C. Dr. Rebuild sells it as a 70 only clip. The one you show is for 71-72 engines.

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          • Tom L.
            Expired
            • May 7, 2007
            • 438

            #6
            Re: 70 LS5 choke rod clip

            I bought my '70 in pieces. I had the rod, but not the clip. There were no dirt or other marks on the rod that you would expect to see from the type of clip shown in the judging manual.

            My choke rod also has a groove which suggests a c-clip, not the type in the judging manual. I measured the diameter inside the groove and ordered a pack of C clips from McMaster-Carr. A picture of the bag with the part number is attached. The clip itself is in the lower right side of the picture.
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            • Richard R.
              Expired
              • August 31, 1988
              • 98

              #7
              Re: 70 LS5 choke rod clip

              Thats the clip I was talking about. If we can get a Bowtie or a Survivor to document that it is the right one maybe we can get the next JM to get a change. The AIM has the actual part number. Thats why I thought Joe Lucia could help us.

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              • Richard R.
                Expired
                • August 31, 1988
                • 98

                #8
                Re: 70 LS5 choke rod clip

                I thought that a picture would show what we'er up against. I have attached 2 pictures, one with the clip that is called for in the JG (notice that the rod makes a 90 degree bend and the clip hangs over). The other is the "C" clip that fits the groove in the end of the rod. The part # for the LS5 is 9431655. The # for the small block is 6255773 LH. These numbers are from the 1970 AIM. I will include pictures later i'm having trouble attaching.
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                • Richard R.
                  Expired
                  • August 31, 1988
                  • 98

                  #9
                  Re: 70 LS5 choke rod clip

                  Heres the other setup.
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                  • Dick W.
                    Former NCRS Director Region IV
                    • June 30, 1985
                    • 10483

                    #10
                    Re: 70 LS5 choke rod clip

                    The information in the manual was taken from know original cars. The AIM is notorious for being referencing items that never made it into production
                    Dick Whittington

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                    • Mark E.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • April 1, 1993
                      • 4536

                      #11
                      Re: 70 LS5 choke rod clip

                      While researching the proper choke rod and clip for 1970 LS5 cars, I found this thread.

                      It left me uncertain about the proper configuration...

                      - Should these cars have a choke rod with no groove in the top end and a "small black-oxide-plated clip that locks back on the choke rod" as stated and shown on page 62 of the JG?

                      - Or is the JG wrong as this thread implies, and instead these cars should have a choke rod with a groove in the top end to accommodate a C clip?

                      I don't know if my car has the original choke linkage, but when purchased in 1990 it had a choke rod with a groove and a C clip.

                      This thread is from 2009; is there more clarity about this now?
                      Mark Edmondson
                      Dallas, Texas
                      Texas Chapter

                      1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                      1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                      • Mark E.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • April 1, 1993
                        • 4536

                        #12
                        Re: 70 LS5 choke rod clip

                        I just found this thread from 1999: https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...Choke-Rod-Clipwhich suggests the JG is wrong, and a unique "E" clip on the choke rod is used on 1970 LS5 cars. The Dr Rebuild part number mentioned didn't work for me on his site, so I may just call him to discuss.

                        Has anyone else looked into this?

                        EDIT: I wonder if what Tom Lynam calls a "C" clip in his October 2009 post from this thread is the same type of clip that is called an "E" clip in the 1999 post...
                        Mark Edmondson
                        Dallas, Texas
                        Texas Chapter

                        1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                        1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                        • Mark E.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 1, 1993
                          • 4536

                          #13
                          Re: 70 LS5 choke rod clip

                          Originally posted by Mark Edmondson (22468)
                          While researching the proper choke rod and clip for 1970 LS5 cars, I found this thread.

                          It left me uncertain about the proper configuration...

                          - Should these cars have a choke rod with no groove in the top end and a "small black-oxide-plated clip that locks back on the choke rod" as stated and shown on page 62 of the JG?

                          - Or is the JG wrong as this thread implies, and instead these cars should have a choke rod with a groove in the top end to accommodate a C clip?

                          This thread is from 2009; is there more clarity about this now?

                          Any '70 choke rod experts out there...?

                          And if the JG is incorrect as this thread suggests, what's the process to review and correct it?
                          Mark Edmondson
                          Dallas, Texas
                          Texas Chapter

                          1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                          1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                          • Gary B.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • July 31, 1979
                            • 926

                            #14
                            Re: 70 LS5 choke rod clip

                            I'll look at the cars in Denver, in a few days. I know of an original 70 big block that will be there, I'll get a picture of that car and post it.
                            On my list of updates for the Mechanical section...
                            Gary

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                            • Paul D.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • September 30, 1996
                              • 491

                              #15
                              Re: 70 LS5 choke rod clip

                              Please let us know how your discussion with the good Dr goes. Chip.
                              Originally posted by Mark Edmondson (22468)
                              I just found this thread from 1999: https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...Choke-Rod-Clipwhich suggests the JG is wrong, and a unique "E" clip on the choke rod is used on 1970 LS5 cars. The Dr Rebuild part number mentioned didn't work for me on his site, so I may just call him to discuss.

                              Has anyone else looked into this?

                              EDIT: I wonder if what Tom Lynam calls a "C" clip in his October 2009 post from this thread is the same type of clip that is called an "E" clip in the 1999 post...

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